Eurofighter Typhoon (UK versions) - Technical data and discussion

The table of contents in the file you posted suggests the last chapter is 47.

Keep in mind you have to achieve some dwell time, which should be possible to calculate and get rough estimate (not counting filtering and processing which can probably reduce it a bit).
If its this fast, its probably mainly used in priority target mode and i bet whatever you want, that we wont see it. Gaijin cant even fix god damn antenna patters… Let alone adding more complicated ones.

Which means nothing in wt… We have yet to see nctr implemented.
NCTR=/=detection range, scan speed or tasks it can perform.

The PDF is incomplete, there are many more chapters in the book but not that PDF for some reason.
Example;

I cannot access the book from the website shown but it allows me to google search sections of the book, including about the CAPTOR under chapter 52.3

The partial table of contents is visible here; notably the section for CAPTOR and whatnot is removed as well.

Just noteworthy of the limitations of older mechanical scan arrays not being so good at NCTR is all

Thats to be expected to be fair, especially if compared to most modern aesas. I wonder how it compares to RDI, RDY or APG-63v1 and 70.

The F-16C-50 radar we have in-game was notably poor at NCTR according to some documentation for comparison

imma be honest compared to contemporary US fighter radars the rafale’s PESA is pretty garbage.

even the new AESA one is largely inferior to every US AESA short of the 63v2, even then it probably has an edge in range and power

Just saying but the rafale came after the Eurofighter

Well u are getting mk 0 first of all now

Eurofighter program that developed what we see today was re-formed in 1983, Rafale program was already underway since 1979 after they left the first version of the consortium.

Either way, Rafale production variant was built and flew first so idk what you mean

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First Rafale entered service 2004 vs Eurofighter which is 2003

RBE2 PESA is a bit like if RDY and Antilope 5 had a baby It can do air-air and terrain following, and i assume it can also designate surface targets, since Rafale equipped with this radar can also carry Exocet. Note that i’m less sure about last one since i’ve not seen it written anywhere, it’ purely a deduction from my part

in terms of range however, it indeed does not offer much (if any) improvement over rdy, although i’d say that’s fine considering the relative “short” range of early fox 3s

Rafale prototypes flew a few months before EAP, dassault engieneers used to jokingly say “Encore Au Parking” (still in the hangar). Not the best humour there is, but it is what it is i suppose.

For active service, Rafale was accepted in the french navy in 2002, and EF in 2003 in the luftwaffe.

They both originate from a common program, branched out back in the 80s, and Rafale arrived a year earlier, basically

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Yes, but france was originaly part of the eft project. But then quit since they wanted to add stuff like carrier capability.
Its quite obvious they took a few development stuff /ideas out of the whole project

Ah just saw this at the end. Thats what i hinted at

But wasn’t it delivered in 2004?

yup i’m not denying that.

Difficult to quantify the amount of work done by all parties before the branching out occured however, so i can’t really pronounce myself on that one

The idea of :

  • twin engine
  • delta
  • of around 10-11t

are basically common to both (although the weight was already a contention point)

but then :

  • canard disposition (close coupled for Rafale, needed for carrier landing and low speed maneuvers, while far on EF, for high manœuvrability)
  • air entry disposition
  • and probably more details i’m not aware of

are not common to the program

France didn’t leave the Future European Fighter Aircraft (FEFA) program until 1985. Before that, work was directed to the European Combat Aircraft (ECA).

It would not be correct to say the Rafale program began in 1979 any more than it would to say Eurofighter also began then just because BAe and other companies were already working on designs that would later result in those future programs that both ultimately lead to Eurofighter and Rafale.

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(french senate)
“Entré en service en 2002, le Rafale Marine”

https://www.defense.gouv.fr/marine/aeronefs/rafale-marine
(french MOD)
Same thing here (2002)

BUT

Dassault says :

Historique de la mise en service du Rafale.

2004

Either they all have a mandela effect, or the government and Dassault don’t refer to the same thing when they say “entry in service”

so which version can uk get?
i want fgr4 ,please

Maybe accepted in 2002 but delivered 2004