Eurofighter Typhoon (UK versions) - Technical data and discussion

There is always a risk of that, I drop chaff in spaced intervals but you still see the missile heading to you. So you chaff more and change attitude to break the IOG guidance phase.

In Su-33 you drop 2-3 puffs of singular large calibre and the missile cleary deviates from the aircraft. It is drawn to the Chaff. This allows you to recommit quicker or get your nose back on the target.
With BOL you are dropping tonnes in comparision to get a similar result and you cannot Chaff SARHM as reliably

And if you run Flares in your BOL pods/DASS they are border line waste of time.

From videos i watched, the best thing to do was to spam a lot of them for a really short time.

Thats what happens in the final stages when the missile isn’t detered you dump loads and pull up or drop the nose to change the angle for the IOG phase of the missile guidance

You can have that in the EF just uninstall the Maw modification and there you go only 60 large caliber countermeasures

I hadn’t considered that i’m going to do some testing tonight (providing it will let me select Chaff)

It does

Yo guys, looks like we’re getting iris t in an upcoming update, although it will be a ground vehicle. Will be good to see how the first iir misses are modeled

large chaff is fine, but BOL is literally 1/4 the size it should be, should never have been nerfed

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Yeah, this is very true.

BOL chaff is just useless. Its artificially nerfed massively

BOL shouldn’t have been nerfed, but I at least never had any issue with defeating missiles in it’s current state

I am curious in what situations is your chaff not working. If the missile is looking down at you chaff has literally no effect as the seeker stays in IOG PD mode. If it is looking up at you, then it switches to pulse mode when you notch and that is when chaff actually does something and at least from my experience, BOL chaff still works in that situation. It’s not as bad as BOL flares.

Typically the best strategy to get BOL chaff to work is to use periodic chaff release and drop 4-8 rapidly instead of 1 or 2.

In something like the Tornado GR4, defeating an AMRAAM is trivial with a few large chaff releases. In the Typhoon or anything else cursed with BOL, you need a lot more to create the same radar signature as a stanadard chaff

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/B8OvCzjZ7E91

Should be about 4x more effective than it currently is, closer if not identical to regular chaff.

I would note that asraam can pull lower than the r-73’s radius too so yk.

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Frankly it doesnt really matter, both achieve broadly the same results, and it isnt really the case that a H-inf controller is just better in ever circumstance.

I sincerely doubt that

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Do you have a source for that? Ive never actually seen any sources even provide comparative performance of the ASRAAMs turn radius, and I somewhat doubt that a very high acceleration, non-TVC equipped missile is surpassing the R-73 in turn radius, parricularly when basic math would indicate that with both missiles being 50G missiles, and ASRAAM being the faster of the 2, it would make sense that at any given point in time post launch, its turn radius would have to be larger than that of the R-73 until the point where the aerodynamic control authority of the missiles begin to drop below the 50g levels.

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What is an H-inf controller?

I recall something about ASRAAM being designed to be superior to the R-73 in every single respect after NATO got their hands on a load after the reuinification of Germany and were able to test them, but I dont know if that includes the off-the-rails turn radius

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H-infinity, its a control theory