Looking back at that tornado test, I think the altitude is much higher but I still think it’s subsonic, the wings are not swept, clouds passing by
Matched it about as closely as I could based upon a few educated guesses, like the alt being around 20k ft
(will be HD shortly, still processing)
Yeah its not pulling anywhere near as hard, granted thats not gonna work for bug reporting.
Itd be interesting trying to see this pic recreated:
Is there a way to zoom out when flying an aircraft?
I should be able to reverse engineer the maths, but I’ll take a look tomorrow.
The biggest problem I see is warthunder does not utilise body lift in missiles.
Part of why the devs think the Stinger can only do 12g when it is capable of double that at least.
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Or maybe a better way to measure the difference in angle is when the brimstone reaches the nose of tornado and the angle it produces relative to the plane of the fuselage
Which I think Is what Devil did
But that should not matter. Missile should be able to reach 40 degree of boresight, and the front ones are mounted flat.
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Could do so in replay
Another difference to note is that the irl missile is flying in its direction of travel, the WT missile is falling in that direction…
Attempt 2
Brimstone should achieve higher AoA
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/Yjnp0lyaM3LR
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Honestly not sure if this bug report will stick, mostly just cuz “pulling 40° of AOA” may not be the correct way to explain it, but idk if theres a better way to put it either.
Maybe something more along the lines of “the source provided indicates that the brimstones pre-launch gimbal limits are set to 40° to allow the missile to service late show targets. At the moment, the missile in-game is incapable of hitting targets at the limits of its pre-launch gimbal as would be required to match the specified capability in the report, implying the Brimstone to be lacking in max load-factor and control surface authority” might work better?
Thats just my 2 cents tho, either way, I appreciate the work you’ve put into the report :)
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That’s not the thing. The seeker is capable of tracking. The missile itself does not pull.
Adding the whole pre launch gimbal is not a thing as its gimbal is greater. The 40 degree is a zone where when fired it should go for the target.
And I added the source used to buff the pre launch, so it’s already there.
I just read the whole thing again. My brain short circuited during the first read.
You are right, I just might go and explain it to like I was talking to a kid.
Still the pre launch gimbal is not a correct term there.
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Im not saying the pre-launch gimbal is the problem, I’m saying that the missile is currently unable to pull enough G’s and enough G’s fast enough to hit a target at the limits of the pre-launch gimbal as would be required for the source to make sense.
ie: its not that the missiles max AOA is too low, its that its max load factor (g-load), and the control authority of the control surfaces (how quickly/efficiently the fins can induce the required G-load) are too low.
Maybe my language was too flowery or something, I guess I shouldnt backseat bug report…
Changed it a little, hope it highlights the issue better.
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I’ll review the whole brimstone pull stuff through the day.
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