P-track wouldnt cause any real increase in scan time, and even if it did, it would still decrease the time to update tracks, which renders the increased scan time irrelevant.
If there is a non-classified source for that. Then instead just make it the 5 closest player targets plus which ever is currently selected. or the 5 closests player targets to the currently selected target plus the current target.
Should be more than enough on that front.
But still. I think MythicPI is right, it really shouldnt be too complicated to add something close. Sure, some day if the game code allows, we could get the proper dynamic modeling, but Id rather take something close than nothing at all.
Had that for 18 months on the Tornado with leading edge wing slats and it sucked. Could be looking at the same for the Brimstone too. Really would be nice to have at least a half decent CAPTOR-M, instead of the Buggy Vixen we have currently.
I do think that even with some downsides p-track should be added as quick as possible to improve captor-m usability.
Honestly, any possible downsides would just be canceled out by the fact we have P-scan
According to EADS it takes 8 seconds to complete a four bar +/-70° priority track scan. That is how long it currently takes to do a four bar +/-70° scan in game without priority track.
So the overall scan speed won’t get any worse in game. If anything you could argue that the non priority track scan should be slightly faster.
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Moving this convo to a more appropriate thread:
Its fair to say the brimstone is very good at ID’ing targets, and if pre-designated by a TGP, its likely using the pre-launch info on the target to avoid targeting objects that dont return the expected image to the seeker.
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Or pre designated with the planes radar
But they are designed to be lauched without knowledge of a target and find its own
They can be fired either or. The website I linked discusses it.
In indirect mode, a killbox is designated and the brimstones are fired at it, locking identified threats when it comes into view automatically (the primary reason gaijin said they didnt wanna give Brimstone MMW seekers). This is used for striking multiple targets that might be well defended, such as an incoming convoy of ground vehicles (this has been seen done by ground launched brimstone in Ukraine vs a russian tank convoy atleast once on video, but cant post that here).
In direct fire mode, it can be launched at a vehicle the launch aircraft/sensors has direct LOS to.
The seeker is also stated to be high enough resolution with good enough target recognition to be capable of picking the ideal point of impact based on what the target is recognized to be, and when fired in salvos against groups of targets, the missile impacts are staggered to prevent missiles from striking the same one.
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Well then, i hope gaijin just gives us p-track already.
@Gunjob see any potential issues with this suggested P-track code based on the ESA P-track adjusted for the current in-game CAPTOR-M?
I’ve already discussed this with a Dev. Can’t go into detail obviously.
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Just figured i could try to provide example code to help :p
And this is why we can’t have FnF, because you can delete up to 12 vehicles in a single pass without any line of sight to the target, MMW Brimstone is busted.
Tornado completing this kind of attack;
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Got any extra explanations on what we’re looking at in the 2 pics? Not sure what the cam view is of exactly, and the green image looks like a radar return but not exactly sure either there.
Not sure, for pic 1, pic 2 is a radar return for sure. I guess I could try and track down the guy who gave the presentation to ask haha. Give me a hot minute.
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@Mulatu_Astatke applying here to save detailing the Rafale thread.
That is literally Brimstone’d primary operating mode…
As already shown Brimstone has Automatic Target Recognition.
The Eurofighter can use its RWR to designated targets for Brimstone.
Ah yes a research paper investigating the use Convolutional Neural Network for target recognition in infrared surveillance systems. That does not prove that no other system could identify individual targets, it just shows that for that one research project they chose six target categories as a starting point to prove the technology.
Brimstone also uses radar (not IIR) and to my knowledge does not use CNNs. If you are going to discuss brimstone’s target recognition capability, I suggest you find something more relevant.
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Such as? Can it do anything more than distinguish a tank from a tree if they are standing within 50 metres of the other?
Maybe provide relevant sources? I’ve yet to see anything worthwhile. I mean, really you should know more than me…
Like talking to wall
It was designed to be deployed in target rich environments like tank convoys it can tell the difference but there is no point even mention this as anything that doesn’t fit your world view is just wrong according to you
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Its pretty simple, SAR imagery can be done at 94Ghz, same as the Brimstone seeker.
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