Eurofighter Typhoon (UK versions) - Technical data and discussion (Part 2)

You know what’s stupid? Despite the new EFT AESA, the HUD still squished, how the hell they really zero F given to this small issue? If this really small issue why doesn’t just fix it?
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Because it requires… effort.

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you know when smin said this


I wonder when we eventually get later gen IR missiles ETC the IRIS-T and ASRAAM… would each Eurofighter have access to both?

3 ASRAAM, 4 Meteor, 3 IRIS T loadout would be disgusting

Whats better then ASRAAM VS IRIS-T

Different applications
ASRAAM got significantly more range
Iris t pulls harder

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Which is quicker

Iirc Asramm should be mach3+ while Iris tops out at Mach 3

Well, completly different development targets.

ASRAAM → Foucs on range/maximum F-Pole distance
IRIS-T → Maximum agility with the ability to use the missile as a hardkill system against incoming munitions

In that regard the IRIS-T has a special booster burn sequence, missile body design and thrust-vectoring to even be able to hit targets behind the plane, while the ASRAAM is engineered for minimal drag and maximum speed at the cost of maneuverability to hit targets far away. There is an ASRAAM version (P3I-ASRAAM) with thrust-vectoring but no idea if it’s manufactured currently as it was designed as a contender for the AIM-9X program which it didn’t win.

You could say the ASRAAM is like a R-24T while the IRIS-T is like a R-73 ingame for a rough comparison but don’t hold me to that ^^

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so if we got both it’ll be good to use the IRIS-T at closer ranges while the ASRAAM to use at not quite ARH ranges but slightly lower

its kinda compareable to the r73 vs r27et

where the IRIS-T is an analog to the r73 and the ASRAAM for the r-27et

ASRAAM will be very good for jumping MAW-less jets at incredibly long distances. Plus include the fact that most jets only get an IR MAW which can’t be trusted as much, whereas eurofighters will handle long range IR shots with relative ease.

Basically, we would have an objective advantage at range.

There is no way the standard iris-t has a launch range of 25km from the ground. Isn’t it 12 km

Meh, sorry. I misread the source ^^
It was stated for the up to 25 km air defense theater and yes it has 12 km range ground launched.

Interestingly, the ground launched ASRAAM is stated to have 15 km range when ground launched according to this website. So only 25% more range. (New Raven SAM for british ground here? xD)

ASRAAM can do that too

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Theoretically every LOAL missile can do that (even ASMs), the question is at what range/how fast it can turn.

Raven will not be added in the near future, due to the, event, it is tied to.

I believe the difference in claims from the mk0 and mk2 from the mk1 comes down to the manufacturers interpretations. It appears that the ecrs past 180 degrees rapidly loses power, and so hendsolt chose to undersell its performance, while the other firms showcase the max range. It also doesnt make sense that the ECRS system would lose 10 degrees even with more focus, as the gimble is the same and so is the aesa area.

This image showcases how there is a roughly 50% falloff in power from 180 to 200 degrees.

ASRAAM is also qualified for off the shoulder firing. Its flight enveloppe is simply larger in both min and max range all around the aircraft. I personally think that the ASRAAM is going to perform quite significantly better than the IRIS-T in game due to the fact that its NEZ is significantly larger than the IRIS-T’s one (seeker being identical as of IIRC modelling for now)

Does that really matter with the current furball meta? The game currently favors very-short, short and medium distance combat while the focus is at very-short to short range engagements. In a chase or frontal engagement the ASRAAM will be dangerous (depending on the seeker range which could be hilariously bad judging from the current A2A missile seeker ranges), no question. In an off-boresight engagement it will not be as good and I would assume the IRIS-T has more than enough range for most engagements. I fear that the ASRAAM will not be able to play out its range advantage because of ingame seeker limitations…