Fourth now with the addition of the F-2
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oh yeah, i also forgot about su-34 so it’s really fifth
The 2 extra magic 2 arrived after reports were made after the introduction of 5f. 5f also arrived years before the MICA, so I do t think there’s any basis to consider it in the addition of the plane. Or they would have added the 5F along side MICA in 2024
Fair enough. I don’t think it qualifies exactly like the EFT and other planes in this situation tho
Not as gigantic as starting with only 4 missiles and flares but no chaffs that is the current stock grind. Or the massive flight model nerfs that you have to grind with modifications.
True I suppose, now it’s about convincing gaijin instead of us being given another 420k rp jet that’s functionally identical because the game isn’t ready for METEOR/ASRAAM yet.
What they could do is just make the AESA modification specifically more expensive. Like 4x that of a tier 4 mod so it’s not a new jet but it’s still effort. There’s no need for another identical airframe.
The 5F was added in the same update that add the J-8F and official statement that the J-8F is planned to get ARH in the future
So it’s not unreasonable to assume the exact same would apply to the Mirage 5Fs intro
now if only the typhoon gets a missile that can actually launch from beyond 60 degrees…
The meteor and asraam should be able to, but amraam? It’s probably stuck with having to be launched within 60 degrees of target (+ its really terrible off bore anyways)
Yes. I’m not here to say that I want an entirely new aircraft to research just for AESA, I’m just really pessimistic about how they will handle this. I’d love to be proven wrong in the future tho.
Then the same could be applied to the typhoon. Devs might decide to lock AESA and say meteors or ASRAAM behind a new mod for next year (I’m really playing devils advocate here, don’t get the impression that’s what I want)
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Should we expect the meteor to be good at high offshore tho ? Maybe for very long range but I would be surprised it’d turn more than AMRAAM
They might, but would still be sooner rather than later and would come with far more than just AESA and new missiles. Such as AMK, striker II and maybe even the new cockpit.
Let alone weapons like spear.
It would have to be truly worth the upgrade
no it’s gonna be terrible off bore. I just meant since its seekerhead (deritative of mica em seekerhead) has no angular launch limits, it should also have no angular launch limits
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Being slower off the rails it might gain the advantage of a smaller turning radius but I think the key point is that AMRAAM expends most of it’s energy in said turn. Meteor would not. Whilst it probably wouldn’t be WVR worthy HOBS. It would certainly be far more forgiving than AMRAAM is in BVR combat
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this would be one of the few times id hope an aircraft doesnt get a new cockpit
i just think the big ipad and no hud is ugly
Ah yes, the buff that made MICA absolutely insane at close range. Thankfully it doesn’t seem like most people are aware that HDM limits are bigger when looking to the side rather that upwards, so I don’t see that many people abusing it as much as I do (not even mentioning the IRST to MEM trick to get 90º offboresight shots)
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I kinda like it, but would need to be modeled right and it would need striker II at full strength
yeah for some reason for both r-77-1 and mica em, the limits are 90 degrees vertically and 180 horizontally, when at least for r-77-1 it should have literally no limits at all, not sure for mica em
yeah but we both know how often gaijin properly models huds (especially british ones)
Unfortunately true
Maybe the devs would remove the blindspot for HMD, which would be appreciable as HMD usually gives more information useful to war thunder compared to HUD (please gaijin add a switch to keep the HMD when looking forward)
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Depends, at very close ranges, not so good. And I have a feeling there will be no throttling, so it will go full send.