Not sure if flight patter report would do anything.
Do we even have a missile that follows a simmilar path in game?
They will find a way but it’s primarily to ensure that the cost does not fall on the taxpayer. BAE have in the last decade been in scandals for delays and refusal to compensate, often charging more to fix their cock-ups but the best example is the Type 45 IEP (Integrated Electric Propulsion) and subsequent PIP (Power Improvement Plan) fiasco.
Frankly, the UK can’t support it, and is sick of it. So the UK MoD already had plans to mitigate that but Japan certainly doesn’t want to deal with it.
T45 fiasco
BAE managed the design and construction of Type 45.
The issue more specifically the Rolls-Royce Marine Gas Turbine part of the IEP system is fine, but the Northrop Grumman Intercooler that forms part of the propulsion and power distribution system, frankly, sucks and managed to allow the system to overheat in the coldest Ocean in the world causing the entire system to crash and completely kill all electrical power to the ship. The ships operated on the assumption that the Gas Turbine was from RR and therefore supremely reliable and also the engine its based on is world-renowned for reliability, but when the intercooler fails, the Gas Turbines lose most power, which then increases demand on the diesel Generators, which then trip out and die.
The solution is to rip open the ship (literally as engines were never designed to be replaced as, again, the Gas Turbine is very good), and then add more diesel generators so load is manageable. So yeah the GT’s still die every now and then but there’s backups now.
Good willing defence contractors (yes, they exist!) would front at least some of the cost. BAE meanwhile… haven’t paid a penny
Though it’s not 100% their fault, actually its Northrop Grumman’s for supplying an unfit intercooler and Rolls Royce’s for not fully testing the WR21 in a broad enough spectrum of conditions to have determined that would happen. However due to the disclosure that PIP was theoretically more risky it’s a 50/50 on whether BAE would accept liability. Then again you’d expect the largest European defence contractor to be talking a small % risk.
Subsequent Gas Turbine engines are of all Rolls-Royce design and a new testing facility was opened for them primarily the MT30 and flawed WR21. A singular MT30’s current max power output is just under that of two WR21 engines, though RR notes can be boosted on a case-by-case basis. No cooling problems have arisen and its been tested to well in excess of anything T45 has actually experienced. Oh and unlike WR21, you can extract all the components of MT30 bar the baseplate through the engine intake…
The good news is a lesson has been learned, T31 and T26 are painfully well on schedule as T45 being delayed and overbudget added insult to injury, and all subsequent RN vessels and designs will use purely Rolls-Royce designs MT30 or successors, Types 31 and 26 are also working up to be export behemoths, T31 to Indonesia and Poland as their principle vessels, T26 to Canada, Australia and likely soon to Norway and potentially Brazil. So far they’ve blown all their competitors out of the water, including FREMM, Constellation class, FDI, ASWF, Arleigh-Burke derivatives, MEKO and F127.
Thank-you.
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Hello, nice to be able to speak again.
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Let’s hope they pull a JSOW with Tempest
I did some calculations, based on the test firing video it is doing 20-30g on launch.
The missile doesn’t use its fins to generate turning force, the missile is statically unstable and and uses the fins to generate AOA, then the missile uses body lift and thrust angle to produce turning force.
Fin size and guidance algorithm is nonsense, either the dev is incompetent or being intentionally obtuse.
It’s the same crap nonsense that we got regarding the Stinger missile g limits.
Again, they are correct though. The Brimstone in game uses proportional navigation, the brimstone in real life does not.
sounds correct if the center of pressure is behind the missile center of mass, making it inherently unstable. It would be a massive win if this can be accepted into another bug report.
Should be using three dimensional predicted impact with ground avoidance and and time delay…
I know some missiles in game use predicted impact point guidance, but they are surface launched.
But that is neither here nor there,
The PID values can easily be adjusted to account for signficant differences, as the game does not simulate proportional navigation realistically.
Cant wait untill they add the asraam, due to the fin size we dont believe it can turn and therefore introduced it as an unguided rocket.
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Luckily we have primary source documents showing it can turn at 50g.
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Thats some good news!
Cue Marketing Lies 2: Electric Boogaloo
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also question ive seen people say it would be unhistorical for gaijin to give us only 6 Mode 2 brimstones? I dont see how when you could just take the other 12 as Mode 1 and boom the reasoning? the brimstones were set up before launch like that
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I’d hope it was done via SP cost not hardpoints restrictions because it would infuriating in other gamemodes
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Yeah, make the 18 brimstone load out cost 2000sp.
Yep, or there or there abouts.
We believe the 50g figure is from dual plane control and the pull in game will be 35g
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So basically magic 2 manoeuvrability?
You G limits isn’t the turning circle right
I mean aoa/fin angle + thrust vectoring matters, is why r73 has a smaller radius than say an r77 even though r77 has higher g load.