Wasn’t arguing for that. I was arguing that typhoon is not known for its speed since it’s totally outclassed in that department by multiple combat aircraft
Eh…
Mig-25 was built in a rush as a counter for the Valkyrie and was basically a radar mounted to engines. It did little else.
Mig-31 was an attempt to turn the Mig-25 into an actual fighter (which iirc, wasnt all that great)
YF-12 is a proposed/prototype version of the SR-71 to turn it into a interceptor. An aircraft again, basically built to be fast in a straight line
F-15C is the slowest of the 4 and only barely faster than the Typhoon (1500mph vs 1650mph). So…
Not really true, Typhoon should be considered not that far off the F-15C and certainly not “totally outclassed”. But what it is known for is its QRA/intercept ability. Pretty much nothing can go from brakes off to 30k ft and supersonic faster. and unlike 3/4 of your “faster fighters” can do more than just go in a straight line once it gets there
Yeah MiG-25 only really went fast. But again, that’s all I’m comparing to.
MiG-31 was a pretty major improvement. Give it some credit, it’s an excellent platform for long range, high speed missiles.
As for YF-12, the A-12 series may not be the bricks people think they are. I’ve heard they handled pretty well. It’s the fastest of the bunch too, did 2,070mph, and actually got really far before getting canceled because Vietnam.
Typhoon does mach 2.25, F-15C can do 2.4/2.45, and 2.5 in good conditions. .15-.25 mach is a solid speed difference.
And the faster fighters don’t have to do anything but go faster since that’s what I’m comparing.
I frankly don’t know why you’re making such comparisons. All I said is that the Eurofighter is best known for it’s acceleration and speed - both are always explicitly mentioned in any article, report or other piece of media that features the plane. And well, 2500km/h/Mach 2.35 (according to the Bundeswehr) is fast.
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Acceleration, this is true.
But speed is only for marketing or sounding fast to ppl who don’t know about jets.
Except that a high top speed (and getting there quickly) was one of the key design requirements of the plane. I would agree that the topspeed stat would ordinarily be just a marketing number that sounds good - but that is not the case with the EF. Which is why I’m worried about Gaijin seemingly nerfing the speed of the Typhoon, when it’s already one the things it quite severly underperforms in ingame
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So it should hit 2.35 at high altitude? Are you sure it cannot do this ingame?
I can get it to about Mach 2.26 at an altitude of about 11,000m. And only after very slowly crawling there
So should have slightly better acceleration, and 85 kmh faster?
Btw, weather does have an effect on mach number. So 2.35 is probably under perfect conditions
Nevermind, I checked an online mach number calculator (NASA one) and 11,000m allows for mach 2.35 at 2500kmh
It is what I’m suspecting, yes. I’m somewhat fine with the current live performance of the plane, as I think that it corresponds quite well with what the sources of the other users here say. It’s just that I fear that Gaijin will have nerfed one of the key aspects of the plane without much reason behind it
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They’re just hungry for leaks.
I just want my Eurofighters to stop ripping their wings due to over G (skill issue, I know) 😭
At least out 6th gen project is with the French then…
yeahhh thats probably not going anywhere
Because french gave up
I don’t see how this Is going to change the current issues with France on the project.
Britain doesn’t even have enough pilots man the planes it’s got now lol
recent statements were that we should prioritise the Wingman component and upgrade our current stuff because NGF, if at all, will come veeeeeery late
the wingman stuff can be fully domestic but for the NGF its harder. i dont see NGF happening as you’ll need to convince either Dassault or Airbus to not work on it which… yknow
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Fair enough
Armament projects with france were always rather “quirky” because of the french attitude…
For example the Eurofighter project: A project of five nations of which france demanded to have >50% development share including 100% of the engines. After obviously not getting that they sulkily pulled out and build the Rafale on their own.
Same thing currently with the successor for the EF (FCAS). German companies don’t really get the chance to bring their know-how into the project as the contract is very france focused and the german DoD states that currently the FCAS will be more something of a Rafale-Plus, missing the target of developing a sixth-generation fighter while using german money.
I really don’t see this FCAS project going anywhere currently and it would be better for germany to pull out at this state as it should be rather obvious that the new plane will not meet their demands. France is really not a good partner for multi-national armament projects in my opinion (as can be seen in the current Leopard successor project too).