Eurofighter Typhoon (UK versions) - Technical data and discussion (Part 1)

[MatrixRupture]

Yes in game it’s at like 18.3 degrees a second compared to the requirement listed as 20 at the bare minimum

[Morvran]

@Flying_Scotsman

personally idgaf about brimstones rn, because I can kind of understand where they are coming from

The issue is 2 fold.

1. The Typhoon by all accounts, never used Brimstone 1s, which it has in game. If they can only mitigate quantity advantage via SAL only for now, then we could at least have Brimstone 2s

2. There must be a better option than SAL only for quantity mitigation which makes them practically worthless if you mostly play Air modes like ASB. They have fraction of the value that PW4s have currently in ASB.

But its also things like the missing GBU options as well. It smells like lazyness to me.

@Flying_Scotsman

gaijin can really go and take the Captor M that they’ve turned into a glorified Blue vixen, and shove it up their arse

Yeah…

[Scuzz]

I’m guessing that what ever proof we give them, they will just pass off as “propaganda” while they also take whatever tea soaked peice of paper they can if its russian

[F0x_Hunter]

Frankly speaking, it is infinitely ridiculous that a top aircraft can attack several targets at once only if they are stationary, and if they are moving, then only one at a time, and only from short distances. The best aircraft for a salvo at moving targets is the Gripen. But with 4 Mavericks, it flies out with two “short” air-to-air missiles and very few countermeasures, while the 16-50 can take, with 6 Mavericks, 4 “long” or “short” air-to-air missiles at will.
In the ASB, the Typhoon is effectively locked into the air defense role, although theoretically it can attack small moving targets, but the gaijins did not want to give it fnf missiles and a radar mode for work on the ground.
Oh, Mr. Flanker. Here are your fnf missiles and a radar for work on the ground. Don’t deny yourself anything. And ESA radar, of course.

[Scuzz]

well its not russian, so its not allowed

[MatrixRupture]

So tired of the cope
The Americans and Russian get whatever they want

[Scuzz]

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[Pheonix_RX01]

Tell that to the bug report for BOL for the US hornets using US tests and RAAF F-18 and Finnish BOL documents to add support for US hornets to get BOL. So far nothings come of it but we’ll see lol.

[Pheonix_RX01]

Thought Smin stated the mode wasn’t present in any radars in game early? Maybe im misremembering

[MatrixRupture]

The hornet hasn’t even come out yet

The Harriers have been suffering for 5 years

[Pheonix_RX01]

Maybe in 10 years they’ll fix the boat flightmodel they gave them…

[MatrixRupture]

What the Harriers?

They literally gave them 0 effort and they went from being one of the most epic dog fighters ever to a useless lump bc of gaijin

[Pheonix_RX01]

Yeah the first gen models im referring to. Though its been a minute since ive touched them.

[MatrixRupture]

Yeah the first gen models should have the same ITR of a MIG - 21 and have a higher STR

[Morvran]

Su-34 and F-15E got it on launch and the Su-30SM is now getting this major

Rafale and Typhoon had it on the dev server (for their update) , but it never made it to live.

[Pheonix_RX01]

My bad then

[MythicPi]

The Rafale got a massive buff at high alt according to these posts:

Dassault Rafale - Variants, Characteristics, Armament and Performance

[20250308030254] [20250308002320] In the DEV server, the Rafale has actually gained the best high-altitude flight performances in the game ( Although the Rafale has seen reduced thrust at mid-to-low altitudes in the DEV, the simultaneous significant drag reduction results in a negligible impact on its actual flight performance.). Considering the weakened elevators of the Typhoon at high speeds, it’s currently the only fighter capable of performing rapid notch under high-altitude and high-spe…

Dassault Rafale - Variants, Characteristics, Armament and Performance

Yes, the 2.43 Rafale is a low-mid altitude fighter, but the 2.44 Rafale can do everything. During testing, to investigate the FM changes, the code for critical speed and critical Mach number was modified. The actual Rafale will be destroyed upon reaching 2.0 Mach or 1,460 kph IAS, making it impossible to truly accelerate to 1.47 Mach @SL or 2.4 Mach in high-altitude level flight. However, its acceleration performance alone is truly astonishing.

Im not sure under what conditions you are testing, so I’m not sure if what dark_claw was discussing here would be covered, but from the sounds of it, gaijins decided to nerf the Typhoon and once again buff the Rafale in a way that seems dubious quite frankly, considering it is out-accelerating jets with higher thrust, higher TWR’s, etc… That being said, i have no clue what gaijins using to justify these changes, so all I can do is shrug in confusion.

That might explain why the EFT feels sluggish while the Rafale feels incredible tho.

[quartas121]

I think the full version of this should be kept until widespread implementation of AESA radars, since IIRC they are pretty good at SAR and would make it more pleasant to use.

[_OceanFish]

It’s not a nerf at the expense of the eurofighter, the point was just there isn’t enough sources for the eurofighter for gaijin to model it well enough seems like, even if it’s pretty clear to anyone that eurofighter will always outaccelerate a rafale.

Otherwise as far as it was explained the Rafale can do that and from what i remember it could do better as they went for a middle ground, it does not come of nowhere.

[MythicPi]

Id take the blue vixen over the CAPTOR-M at the moment, the thing is anemic and blind, and the only thing it does “better” than the BV afaik is lock range, which is irrelevant in-game with the weapons and maps we currently have.