Eurofighter Typhoon (UK versions) - Technical data and discussion (Part 1)

The point… Typhoon has one of the weakest radars at top tier. Heck, at the moment its almsot weaker than the Blue Vixen which it should be a C&P of currently somehow.

Rafale has the strongest radar in game right now by a very very long way.

Not denying that AESA needs to be modeled better, but the priority needs to be for the Typhoon and not the Rafale because as it stands currently. The Typhoon almost needs a BR reduction due to its poor performing radar.

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The link to that source indicates it was written by one of the engineers for the radar. But can only be considered a secondary source, But in the absence of primary data. Secondary sources are all we have. A lot of what is said in that “blog” tracks with other sources and so I trust it.

But you have yet to provide any source that the Rafales radar can track 40 targets… So…

In RB, this is pushing it, in sim I’d almost be ready to agree.

Radar scan speeds and area are largely irrelevant in a gamemode where all players are provided the crutch that is the spotting system, or in the case of GFRB, where engagement distance are effectivelly all within HMD lock ranges. In sim tho, radar quality is a huge deal.

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Yeah… Almost, I wouldnt say it does actually need a BR reduction, its just about good enough in most other respect to compensate, but how you play is rather handicapped/influenced by the radar performance or lack there off.

I would think having multiple sources stating the same thing it would be idiot proof. Unfortunately Gaijin do not use a common sense approach.

If we cannot trust the manufacturer, the operators of a system and Gaijin will not accept pilot accounts it makes improving the Typhoon very difficult. I’m looking forward to the DCS Typhoon this year it will be nice to use an airframe as it should be and not this hamstrung mess.

I just hope they use the same level of scrutiny for the Su-30 and F-22…It has to be consistent.

I also think Captor-M should be historically accurate. Rafale’s should also be historically accurate, though, and if necessary this should be reflected in BR changes (hence why the system exists).

Nah… this is called crying:

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Though even then, something like the Rafale can find you instantly and fire but it can sometimes be really hard to spot the rafale to use ACM/HMD to lock the radar on

You clearly have no idea what crying is then lmao. Complaining that your radar, which is already by far the best in-game, isn’t good enough by some indefinite metric is what could actually be described as crying. As Morvran already stated, the RBE2-AA should be fixed, but it should be so low on the priority list that it shouldn’t even be brought up, that was my point.

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There’s other sources, but this should be more than sufficient.

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And it should, though we arent the US or USSR, so we wont get a BR reduction ever. If anything we’ll just get pushed up to fight exclusively AESA radars with no buffs at all.

But between the 2. Typhoon needs a load of bug fixes and Rafale doesnt. And yet Rafale seems to be getting them all recently and what should be relatively basic things on the typhoon, still havent been addresesd

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I don’t even turn the Radar on in ground battles until I’m ready to shoot, it gets you killed I fly around with the IRST system if I have my Radar on I’m with range of any other jet with a superior Radar!

Even an F-4S is a threat to Typhoon

You are also comparing the 90s early 2000s Radar Captur M with a 2013 Radar.
Gaijin should have added the earlier Rafale and not the current one in service.

CAPTUR E will bring the Typhoon to the same level but we will have to wait for a complete new jet and for the meantime we will continue to be outclassed by the Rafale until the Typhoon FGR 4 Tranche 4 is added.

Rafale has mostly been getting flight model fixes recently. In most cases, multiple primary sources have been provided to the devs providing data points for the flight model to be corrected to. In every case, the devs have chosen the primary source which would provide the least buff.

Eurofighter flight model has largely been configured based on the devs’ own research using MoD documents. The same extent of research hasn’t been done for the Rafale. It is therefore not surprising that the Rafale keeps seeing corrections to its flight model, whereas the Eurofighter has already mostly been configured per the devs’ own research.

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I dont know if I would go that far. But In GSB the Mk2 eyeball is more reliable than the Radar most of the time

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They’ll probably both get fixed at the same time from what I’ve heard… so whatever.

Yeah but we had the superior product and didn’t bribe hard enough.

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The Radar is so poor anything not directly Infront of you isn’t detected quick enough.
I have been ambushed by an F-4S that was right in front of me. Thankfully everyone in ground RB is depending on the RWR and no Radar means no emissions.

But… Rafale has gotten a number of buffs in addition to that.

Its got HMD from a later variant of the Rafale. But the Tyhoon cant get striker II because that is from a later version of the Typhoon

Rafale has gotten 8x MICA from a later variant

Magic II got a nice little buff recently, but flames lock range report for Aim-9M is like 1-2 years old but hasnt been fixed yet

Heck. Rafale probably should have come with the PESA radar not AESA

Can the Typhoon get Brimarone 2 that it actually used? No because it would be too strong but here. Rafale, take AASMs

Its just more and more frustrating how restricted the Typhoon is

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8 MICA is only the Indian version French Rafale F4 have never operated with 8 MICAS and likely never will as like the Typhoon it takes up fuel tank real estate.

The only aircraft we would likely ever see trading fuel for missiles is naval aircraft that are tasked with defending an attack on a carrier. Like the F/A-18E with Aim120D in “Murder Hornet” configuration.