So this source is good but the EFT can’t super cruise right?
So is the Swiss trial right or wrong?
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I stated that it can fly at mach 1.4 on dry thrust, I dispute the idea that this is “supercruise” seeing as the aircraft is not at “cruise”.
wringht
Well where do you draw the line. For example:
Flight.
"Oooooh…well - my PERSONAL definition of flight is that it must be blue, with pink spots and literally flap it’s wings like a bird. Which also flies. But doesn’t count.
So NOOOO - the Typhoon cannot fly."
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Nah nothing is topping this, unbelievable scenes
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Is supercruising not being able to fly steadily above the speed of sound ON DRY THRUST ALONE
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The very name “supercruise” implies the aircraft is cruising at supersonic speeds. This is not the case for Eurofighter which must be using maximum mil thrust to surpass the wave drag boundary that nominally covers up to 1.3 mach or so for optimized airframes such as missiles.
The F-22 by comparison can fly up to mach 1.82 on maximum dry thrust but pulls the throttle way back to cruise at a lower 1.5 mach.
That’s multi-spectral grenades with chaff, most if not all Western MBTs have got those, including:
- all Leopard 2s
- Leclercs
- Chally 2s
- (even the) Ariete
- IIRC PT-91 have got those as well.
There’s nothing special about them.
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I agree with that.
It really depends which CAS however. Because some are more capable in this regard than others. Theres a reason why russian CAS in form of Su34 and Su25SM3 are so oppressive and on one hand its ofc the fact like you said that they are able to shoot outside of the range of majority of non-russian 12km range SPAA (the only one thats got 15km range is now the HQ17 but thats a completely different bag of pain i dont want to talk about) BUT also the fact that the missiles are so much quicker (Mach 2.2) with IOG.
Mavericks while capable of being shot out at ranges that outdo SPAAs are extremely slow after few kilometers and lack IOG meaning they self destruct once they lose tracking due to smokes for example.
Brimstones are in the same boat except they arent even FnF, at most can be pre-fired using IOG but thats hardly accurate and still needs a constant laser designation lock at the end.
As for hammers, ive not used them, so im not gonna say anything about their performance from experience, but atleast from some videos they arent exactly very fast, whats saving them is the platforms they are deployed on.
dude i dont like being passive aggresive so im gonna go straight foward, there is an obvious reason of marketing lie but no reason for the eurofighter typhoon marketing lie specially considering that countries have actively used and tested the plane and confirmed that the info is not fake unlike GDLS and the abrams marketing lie
idk what are you even trying to get by saying everything they say about the EF2000 its a marketing lie even tho it has been actively tested, they got you sources and they got you data yet you cant accept it, why is that so?
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Would you pass me the sources perhaps we can get the fire and forget capability of the Brimstone if that is the case?
but thats literally what supercruise means??? Being able to sustain above mach 1 speeds without using afterburners.
Strela as well been caught out with a Strela while guiding a Brimstone…Unflarable of course as they have insane IRCCM (not sure how real)
The issue arises when you need missiles as your offensive payload the cost is barely less I think 725ish for a Typhoon with A2A and 780 for a Typhoon with A2A and A2G
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Fun fact: it takes about 5 seconds to look up the famed Swiss Trials of the Eurofighter where they include supercruise speed of M1.4 in A2A config
wink wink ;)))
It isn’t “fake” it is simply misusing a term without colloquial definition for marketing reasons. The Abrams in-game has a massive bullet trap and likewise the Eurofighter cannot supercruise up to 1.5 mach in-game.
Reread what I said.
It is.
Certainly agreed upon by pretty much anyone in the aviation world.
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funny how you didnt provide the sources for the abrams yet when multiple people asked you
but u instantly ask for the sources for other tanks lul
yea, i re-read it, and you disputing something doesnt mean much.
I know youre moving goalposts at mach speeds but come on this is just misconstruing the definition of supercruise.
Does typhoon or does typhoon not fly above the speed of sound on dry thrust and is able to stay there?
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