its less will they do better and more you get the safety of FnF would allow typhoon to do what well every other top tier jet can do and launch FnF AGMs from a safe ish distance and then defend
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Its the ability to engage and defend simutaneously. You cant with Brimstones as you have to sit within range of a Pantsir guiding the missile.
Id run 2x PGM-500 as part of my A2G kit whilst we have the Brimstone 1.
Should we get Brimstone 2 or GPS spear-3s then id run those instead.
Last time I fought a pantsir it intercepted all 6 brimstones I fired at it. So i’ve now changed my loadout from 6 brimstones and 8 PW4s to 12x brimstones and 4 PW4s. hopefully spamming 12 at a Pantsir will be enough to kill it
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Right but that only works when the weapons can affect the intended target. In the case of max BR games those weapons are getting intercepted for zero value.
What’s the point of firing off hundreds in SP to watch most get intercepted. When with Brimstone you can bully SPAA using the map, SPI markers and LOAL SAL stuff?
I mean technically if you launch 9 they would run out of missiles so its a guaranteed kill that way…
Scout spawn from 20km away with TGP, place SPI marker, drop to tree level, fire at 14km, watch your impact timer, pop up in the last 5-10 seconds, turn on laser, win.
Whose sitting guiding it in like its the 1980’s… this is a skill issue my guy.
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A lot harder than russian mains pressing space a few times to demolish half a team, or all SPAA facing them though isn’t it?
which is the primary issue right now EFT has to do all of this in the hope of getting kills meanwhile every other jet gets FnF weapons that while yes a pantsir will most likely intercept most of them I still more often then not see missiles get through and kill 2 to 3 people since most spaa players dont seem to care about missiles that arent going for them
this doesnt stop a pantsir from shooting down the brimstone so it still doesnt solve the issue lol
That is what I did. All 6 were shot down almost immediately.
I approached the area low, fired them off at about 10km from behind a hill and then popped up to lase the target, but all 6 Brimstones were shot down LONG before that point and I had to go back to hard defending.
So next time I will spam 12 at a single target. But if we had Brimstone 2s that travel at a speed greaster than a walking pace, it wouldnt be so easy for them to just be interecepted.
But when you have Su-30s able to fire 1 KH-38MT from beyond the range of any SPAA and get a guranteed kill. its rather unfair what the Typhoon has to do just to kill a single SPAA
1x Kill per sortie with 18 weapons is rather stupid
“The Brimstone”? My guy you’ve got up to 18, take the piss spam the Pantsir. What do you think SEAD operations look like? Single weapon and happy days?
clearly not if Morvran is to be believed if it is taking more then 6 missiles to kill a single SPAA then that is not a good ratio there is also the issue of if there is a second spaa (more often then not there is) you cant engage both at the same time
And you think 1x PGM-500 would do better? Hell even if you had access to 6x PGM-500, it still less likely to kill a Pantsir than Brimstone, as its actually slower, its wayyyy more visible and requires line of sight for the duration, atleast Brimstone will loft to target area.
Gunjob, do you know if the Pull Up Arrow in the HUD got allready somewhere reported?
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/SsjmT4eX0zQb
Because I could swear I saw it allready sonewhere…
idk what to tell you we are grasping at straws here to get a weapon that isnt terrible where you have to expend half of your entire payload for a single kill while also working far harder for it then everyone else
The difference would be the ability to attack differrently.
Or at the very least, once you have successfully dealt with SEAD, you can do what everyone else can do. Spam off AGMs in volleys rather than having to engage 1 target at a time with PW4s or Brimstones.
All weapons have that issue? I don’t know why you’re placing increased value in weapons being self-guiding being at all any better at not being intercepted? Brimstone gives you the ability to completely saturate any and all SPAA.
If you’ve successfully completely your DEAD mission you can loiter 2-3km above the battle and completely milk the team with only ~5-8 seconds between kills when nosing down.
I’ve done it plenty of times. Hell I’ve seen EFT’s completely clean up doing this. Can be done with GR4 as well;
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idk if its just because the EFT takes more skill or if its rarer or what but I rarely see an EFT get more then 1 to 2 kills at top tier