Highly doubt Germany will get AMK, seeing as its in the same category as PIRATE; “tested but never used”.
There’s easily better claim to PIRATE on German EFT’s than AMK as well, seeing as AMK is a major airframe modification, while PIRATE is a drop in component Germany fully retains the right and ability to mount to any of their EFT’s if they wanted to.
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(Not saying the German EFT should have PIRATE btw for those individuals who arent part of this convo and have poor reading comprehension skills)
IRIS-T and ASRAAM and probably AIM-9X should have an advantage in not murdering teammates as commonly if/when LOAL is implemented on IIR missiles as all are capable of 90deg pre-launch gimbal limits, allowing you much more real estate in LOBL capabilities compared to MICA IR and R-73/74. Not too sure about the Chinese/Japanese missiles, but I assume they also have a seeker with actual competitive seeker gimbal limits as well.
I’m just expecting a mix of gaijins spotty TVC implementation and abject hatred for germany to shine through and make the IRIS-T borderline unusable. Would not be surprised if they pulled something like with the F-4F early and made ONLY the german IRIS-T basically unusable as well (for those who aren’t aware, for a few months(iirc) after the F-4F early was added, it had a pre-launch G-overload of 4G for its 9J’s, which made it nearly impossible to use them without flying in a near perfectly straight line, and made it effectively impossible to lead targets with them as well.)
So the germans are the only ones that dont have any way to claim to both missiles(even tho by all technicality, they are interchangeably useable)? Interesting…
Sidenote, just looked over the PL-10A for compairison and it seems it has roughly MICA proportions and layout with a ±90deg seeker, so it might just end up being a straight up better MICA in-game.
As it currently stands, I expect the IIR missiles to be, in order of effectivness in WT:
ASRAAM (fastest, likely best range, fully aerodynamic control prevents TVC tomfoolery)
PL-10 (MICA performance with better gimbal limits?)
MICA (slightly less range/speed than ASRAAM, better close in performance, worst in class seeker gimbal)
IRIS-T (best in class close in performance and ability to semi autonomously protect the aircraft in a quasi-hardkill APS, range is subpar though)(if it works and has limited/no TVC issues, which I highly doubt)
AIM-9X (IRIS-T with worse flight performance but maybe better seeker?)
IRIS-T (if it has significant TVC issues and/or doesn’t have quasi-hard kill APS capability)
As for the missiles I cant really comment on;
Python 5 (Very good speed and range, likely the best seeker, but from my understanding it relies a lot on LOAL and target re-acquisition through second attempt intercept maneuvers which might make it finnicky in-game? Don’t really know/care enough about that nation or its tech so idk too much about it)
AAM-5 (seems to be effectively a slight iteration on the IRIS-T, with a slightly bigger motor and probably a better seeker, but dont really have much info on it or heard much about it to comment)
R-74M2 (Russias first 5th Gen IIR missile. Im not 100% clear on the info about it, but if I was to place it considering what ive read in news articles, I’d likely put it 3-4th place, with a better seeker than the MICA and likely slightly inferior range?)
That probably shouldn’t be the case. L3 describe it as a “common weapon launcher” for 500lb class munitions with 14-inch lug spacing. So that should cover other GBUs as well.
PWIV’s interfaces (14-in bale lugs and mil-std-1760 umbilical connector) aren’t any different to others. It just has a hardback design
@Flame2512 mentionned in the past that DIRCM doesnt actually work too well vs focal plane seekers either iirc, not that theres much of anything in-game that actually uses DIRCM to a point that HOJ would be required anyways afaik. The Ka-52 is the only relevant threat that has it but its below the heli, and they’re food for ASM’s anyways. It might help in the upcoming SAMs capability to combat Ka-52’s though I guess.
I think the issue with that though is that, despite the fact NATO has worked VERY hard with standardization, and should theoretically be able to interchange most/all munitions with little actual effort to do so, gaijin is extremely anal about explicit picture proof that something can/has been done (except if its the Kh-38MT, in which case they read on some paper that it was a thing and took it at face value). Technically speaking, most munitions across the NATO nations should be interchangeable. Technically speaking almost all EFT stations should theoretically be cleared to carry AMRAAMs, but unless explicitly proven, gaijin will never let any of those things that happen. (As @Morvran stated, its also not fun when everyone has all the same stuff. Mixed battles and subtrees diluting national flavours has been some of the worst things to have happened to this game)
It wouldn’t surprise me if it is compatible with other stuff, but in all the promo images it is always Paveway IV. And getting Gaijin to go with technical possibility is quite the challenge (see the amount of effort it took to get Paveways on the Tornado wing pylons)
