The problem is that the F14 reaches that rate at speeds where your pilot is permanently blacked out and it is increadably easy to rip your wings of in the F14 at that speed.
And I can tell you that it is possible to reach that STR in WT.
Also @Metaltank1990 claimed the the F14 is better than the EF in slow speed performance,
which it isnt
EF can just monkey pull to get a good position on the F14 no matter the speed
also having a higher turn radius is worse
I didn’t say it couldn’t but it isn’t useful because the turn radius at that speed is massive. You don’t need to worry about pilot blackout just set pitch trim and your plane will maintain that turn indefinitely, pilot awake or not. People do it all the time for advantages in sim.
No, the problem is that any pitching beyond the maximum sustained turn rate speed or at low speed causes excessive energy loss. You don’t need to out-rate it, you only need to force him to pull harder once and suddenly his energy is gone.
Which is what I was referring to, the F-14 simply can’t do that because of the low SEP.
we talkin about tomcat in here hell ya
yeah it turns well but not for long its endurance isnt that great
if its dogfighting a Euro fighter the eurofighter can just energy trap it
it cant
the TWR of the EF is significantly better than the F-14
it is like saying the f-18a can energy trap the F-15a
oh i said it backwards please excuse me i meant it other way let me fix that
The EFT is better in a dogfight than the F-14. But if the EFT isn’t allowed to use the cobra button an F-14 can work with what it’s got for a good chance.
Without weighing into the EFT Vs F-14 debate: it has been shown that StatShark consistently over-estimates Eurofighter’s performance compared to in game testing.
Too bad thats pretty much how it would go.
They merge, eft monnkey pulls and win.
And if they play a bit more passive, Eurofighter wins there too
that is not true
It is true though. Let’s compare the following conditions:
StatShark says 19.9 °/s:
The F-14 loses to an F-16 all of the time
The Typhoon was designed to be better than the F-16 in every metric
The F-14 loses to Typhoon even with AOA limits
Q.E.D
not true actually in mock dogfight testing F14Bs dogged on F16s in a dogfight
Found another perspective. From the same magazine company, but this isn’t about Le Bourget 1999
And the sea harrier FRS1 beat the living hell out of the F5, F15 and F16.
Only chance I see of an F14 winning is being super aggressive and getting an early burst of canon fire off but it’s a gamble because after that, they are dead.
Fought one in a custom battle a little while ago and after the first pass, I owned the fight entirely, was just a tad miffed my Aim-9M decided that a cloud was a better target than the ABing F14, but canons work just as well.
did some quick testing and it seems to only do this at higher fuel loads, min fuel lines up with the calc
and besides this is around the margin of error that applies to everything
