These were just plans-see my post above…
past precedence. Look at the two Tornadoes. Yeah granted you can get the ADV to work well once u spade it but you need to a) spade it (have fun) and b) get downtiers ideally.
Just that eurofighter will be actually good? Lul
It might at least stand a chance. Unlike our current options which either a) dont turn, b) can’t run, or c) can’t do either and worse still have a rubbish weapon set.
Eurofighter has very good performance
Also ADV has good missiles good radar and alot of flares
Gr7 has 9Ms, so UK is not lacking weapons, its lacking flight performance wich EF will solve
1 Like
that would be my argument. the aircraft we all have critically lack flight performance. yes, the GR.7 can cut everyones turn in the first turn, but that’s because of the lack of ability… for the want of a more succinct explanation, to run away from things. it doesn’t have any ability to choose an engagement. the Tornado can’t turn, simply put, and the Phantom lacks the weapons, radar, and manouevrability to ever really be viable in top tier
meanwhile, the Eurofighter is waiting in the wings…
I know the F-14 Fuselage provides lift too, but I’m sceptical that every square metre of it is providing lift, which is what the figure on wikipedia claims as “effective lift”. I can’t find a good source for the total effective lift, but it’s definitely not nearly double the wing area.
Its not just “every square meter” of it thats counted on wikipedia, the lifting body square footage is taken from an actual F-14 design evolution presentation. The actual slide being referenced is:
And that presentation was given by former Northrop-Grumman VP Mike Ciminera.
1 Like
still doesnt take away form the fact that the Eurofighter has like one of the lowest(like 2nd to the Hal Tejas afaik) wing loading of a modern in service fighter jet.
1 Like
This isnt to argue the Eurofighter doesnt have a wing loading, its just correcting incorrect info that was provided.
1 Like
Going by the datamine, GJN doesn’t seem to use his claimed effective lifting area.
well that would explain why it violently departs when losing a wing, which it probs shouldnt do seeing as it still has ~65% of its lift across most of the aircraft…
Its not exactly unlike gaijin to mismodel something for whatever reason and then adjust some other values to compensate though
1 Like
Quick question what version implemented the towed decoy? Was it already there for the first versions or added later?
Tranche 1 had it
1 Like
The Praetorian DASS (decoys included) dates right back to the first production aircraft.
not exactly. full dass came with block 2b. block 1 actually didnt have any DASS at all but there were only like 2 single seaters
Huh, I never knew that, that’s strange I wonder what the point of those two-aircraft was, presumably they were retrofitted?
IPA test aircraft
at least some of them were retrofitted. IPA1-6 were all T1 aircraft, IPA1 was for DASS integration, IPA6 was for T2 testing and integration of new computers, etc.
IPA7 then was T2
1 Like
There are also the ISPA series that were used for sistem test too
both T1 ISPAs have full DASS and only the ISPA2 is a single seater(of the T1s)
and also they had their first flights like 2 years after the IPA1-3