Eurofighter Typhoon (UK versions) - Technical data and discussion (Part 1)

In this case, yes… but to make the general statement is wrong.

We know it covers a 90 degree sector, and it is a proximity fuse… why would it not be able to search that sector? That would be quite a bad design flaw…

  1. December 2021-EF-2000 Kuwait_Captor-E…
    2.2023-In June 2022, Airbus Corporation received a contract to install 110 radars with an active phased array antenna (AFAR) Captor-E on the Eurofighter Typhoon of the German Air Force and five radars of this type on Spanish Typhoons. In the latter case, we are talking about the initial batch of radar. The work under the contract should be completed in 2023 …
  2. England- the end of 2023, the beginning of flight tests of the radar…
    On July 15, 2022, the Ministry of Defense of the United Kingdom announced the allocation of 2.35 billion pounds for the modernization program of the Eurofighter Typhoon fighters of the Royal Air Force with the equipment of their European Common Radar System (ECRS) Mk 2 radar with AFAR. The ECRS Mk 2 radar is being developed by the British branch of Leonardo and BAE Systems under a contract with the British Ministry of Defense dated September 2020 worth 317 million pounds, the start of flight tests of the radar is planned from the end of 2023. It is expected that 40 British Tranche 3A and 67 Tranche 2 series Typhoon fighters will receive ECRS Mk 2 radars by the end of the decade as part of the Phased 4 Enhancement (P4E) upgrade program.

Ever heard of a laser level? Those things prove it’s entirely possible to get a laser beam to illuminate a wide arc. For example:

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Well, in the case of the AIM-9L sensor it has the 8 laser-emitter diodes and 8 light-sensor diodes.

They are said to emit in a “spoke” pattern, which suggests they are not like the laser level, rather emit a narrow laser sort of like a laser pointer. I don’t see why the laser wouldn’t be able to move or pulse in a pattern of some sort to rapidly scan the area though.

Reading into it, the AIM-9X block 2 integrates an improved AOTD (Active Optical Target Detector).

The new layout is visible, and they don’t go away from the 4x 90 degree coverage sensor layout.

Further research suggests most modern IR missiles use either 4x 90 degree sensors or some kind of radio frequency proximity fuse. Must not be as awful as claimed. IRIS-T uses exclusively RF fuse, others use exclusively AIM-9X block 1-esque laser fuse, others have options for either / or.

From my quick googling, those are using a rotating mirror or prism to project the laser

Flames text just doesnt mention any sort of mechanism that could allow for the beam to scan, through I’m still pondering on the “the detection area is the intersection of the transmitted beam and the receiver field of view.” bit, that kinda sounds like the beam is static and the receiver covers 90°, but then why?

And besides, for an actual plane, you really dont need any scanning, they are too large to slip through any gap even if only 4 narrow beams are projected

Although I admit I wasnt aware of AIM-9X Blk II, those rectangular windows look more like they could include some scanning or beamshaping, compared to the round ones on the Blk I and ASRAAM

EF will have prolly the best flight performance of all jets that will come in the near future

better in what? flight performance? radars etc?

none of the currently in service EF tranches have AESA

Thats what a lifting body is…

Isnt the CAPTOR-E AESA? Thats currently fitted to the UK FGR4?

what makes you think it will be DoA lmfao

as far as i know its not fitted rn, but tested - tranche 5 is meant to have AESA iirc

This is a different laser…In Russia, it has been used for 50 Years…There are many types of semiconductor lasers in the IR range of pulsed mode of operation with pump current pulse generators…
R-73L was presented at Mosaeroshow-89. Export version - R-73LE…

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Yeah just did a bit more digging, it doesnt state if any have been fitted yet, but does say CAPTOR-E Mk.2 is on order to retrofit around 50 current FGR4s with CAPTOR-M

However CAPTOR-E Mk.0 is in service with the Kuwaiti & Qatari AF on some of their 'Phoons

T2 and up can be retrofitted with captor-e; the German ones are all getting the Mk1 from 2025 onwards. i wouldn’t expect mk1 or mk2s on operational aircraft before that

These were just plans-see my post above…

past precedence. Look at the two Tornadoes. Yeah granted you can get the ADV to work well once u spade it but you need to a) spade it (have fun) and b) get downtiers ideally.

Just that eurofighter will be actually good? Lul

It might at least stand a chance. Unlike our current options which either a) dont turn, b) can’t run, or c) can’t do either and worse still have a rubbish weapon set.

Eurofighter has very good performance
Also ADV has good missiles good radar and alot of flares
Gr7 has 9Ms, so UK is not lacking weapons, its lacking flight performance wich EF will solve

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that would be my argument. the aircraft we all have critically lack flight performance. yes, the GR.7 can cut everyones turn in the first turn, but that’s because of the lack of ability… for the want of a more succinct explanation, to run away from things. it doesn’t have any ability to choose an engagement. the Tornado can’t turn, simply put, and the Phantom lacks the weapons, radar, and manouevrability to ever really be viable in top tier

meanwhile, the Eurofighter is waiting in the wings…