I think your really underplaying typhoon mate…
360° MAWS, 360° ECM, 2 towed radar ecm decoy if you are fired upon, laser warning against Laser guided munitions, enough CM’s to last you a game.
Ignoring it being probably the best performing jet in the game right now. On top of a radar that can do it all, and has an automated system that will track inside of MBC clutter. An IRIS-T with great capability and 8-10 missiles giving you decent endurance.
Having a turn rate worse than the F-16C and energy retention likely worse than the F-14B, F-15, F-16, MiG-29, etc… I don’t know that it will be “the best performing jet”… The number of ordnance and radar performance is good but the argument was previously about how it performs today irl… and to be honest I don’t think it does. Not really.
In-game how it will perform is entirely dependent on such a numerous amount of factors… all we can go off is the history of the tech tree and thanks to the overhype… I think it will be dead on arrival. They won’t add the systems until long after it’s put in. Similar situation to the French with their M2K.
If i remember right we had docs in the old forum that said u could slave Radar missles to PIRATE
That’s a given, but it doesn’t build a track for them.
Are you sure? All interviews and pieces of information I could find about mock fights point towards the eurofighter being superior to all but the earlier f16 blocks in terms of flight performance and even then its a very close thing.
Real life interviews also pin the MLD as a competitor to the F-14, or depending on who you ask… Rafale to F-22. These are nonsense, take into account many things we do not in the game. They start from higher altitudes, and in real life the F-16 is heavily AoA limited whereas in-game it can practically cobra with no signs of instability. No wing rock, no un-commanded yaw. Lots of variables to consider as I said.
Next thing, will a Typhoon ever face an F-35? Very likely not.
Against the enemy it was designed to face it is plenty enough provided that this enemy isn’t shot down by its own air defense (which is not unlikely)
Well, we’re comparing it to what they could have procured. The “enemy” if you want to call them that would be China, Russia. Both use stealth fighters but that would start a whole other discussion.
If you look at potential threats, the Eurofighter is still viable. As I said, it’s not fully incapable against modern threats. It’s also not like the UK is going up against them alone. In the context of the game, if it’s as hype as people say… It may very well face late 4.5 and early 5th gens.
Thing is that all operators of the Typhoon did procure F-35s in either the A(Italy and Germany) or the B version (Britian)
You’re really going to call the small assortment of scrap metal Russia and China have assembled as Stealth jets? But we are the ones overhyping things?
Can Russia even get two of their “modern” jets flying at the same time? Calling them more than prototypes is generous overhype I must say.
Well yes, eventually (looking at you Germany)…
I understand they were late to the party and wanted something to warrant all the money spent. They need to keep up industry etc … but do you want F-35s for all those countries? I’m not sure the game really needs to go that far into the future anyway.
The FA2 could also fly higher more effectively. Usually 30k ft Vs the F3s 20kft. Which gave them quite a major range advantage even after the F3 got AMRAAM too
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True, it is more likely that the game will collapse before Gen 5s are added, looking at the old codebase.
Well we(Germans) ironically got the F-35 as a replacement to our Tornados which are pretty outdated now.
That’s actually something I didn’t expect. The Tornado wasn’t very optimized for high alt even in the ADV?
Thats what i meant it can track enemys for the missles and lead the missle to the target like that
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Based upon Paul Tremmelings book, they struggled at that alt with fuel burn. So opted for a lower alt. According to his book when on training exercises with them, he was asked to descend to 20k ft as they were having to use AB to maintain that alt, when training was delayed for whatever reason.
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Ah, just a fuel efficiency issue then… probably still performs alright tho. We should move that convo to the correct topic tho if we wanna continue it.
Most IRST + radar combos on aircraft with fox-3 should be able to slave the ARH seeker I’d think… but yeah, that’s quite useful for sneaking up on people and then launching it in active mode I suppose.
Nowing Gajin they probably grab something out of the air
Probably, though not much more to say and rarely do BVR fights occur at that alt, or even much above 1000ft in WT. Especially with the poor Radar controls. Though I’m hoping on the FA2, EFT, or whatever comes next that it will have some better search modes. F3 always feels a little handicapped by its search modes that were probably meant for someone in the back manually moving them around, and not a more automatic search. A symptom of the dual seater, so I hope that any future single seater will be better just for that alone