Oh god, wth happend where?
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I’d love to say, but I don’t want my message to be hidden again.
something something probably devolved into Russian missile chatter.
Oh well.
mmmm mmmmm mmmmmmmmmm
Very nice.
Would it not be C-5, seeing as that’s probably the “current” MRAAM on Typhoon being used by UK/Germany before Meteor?
German Typhoons operate the 120B still iirc. But when it comes to NEZ 120B and 120C5 aren’t that much different. Its only at range where the 120C5 makes the most improvement.
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Operated, they’re now using/going to use 120C-8s as 120Bs have reached the end of their shelf life.
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Yeah I heard about the 120C8 order, but atleast at the time the MBDA presentation will have been made it was before this recent order.
Holy flag system
the presentation also juts says current mraams. not “currently deployed amraams on Eurofighters” so it could be just about anything
Sure, but MBDA is targeting AMRAAM customers specifically given the missiles compatibility with AMRAAM rails and eject launchers.
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So what is the rear aspect launch range of AIM-120 according to the other docs? Seems we can get a ballpark estimate of performance here
For reference In game, at sea level it’s 6km for the AIM120 A/B against a target going M1.1
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Scenario 1 Details:
Launch Aircraft: Mach 0.9 @ 5,000 ft
Target Aircraft: Mach 0.9 @ 500 ft
Expected max range: 9.1 kmScenario 2 Details:
Launch aircraft: Mach 0.8 @ 25,000 ft
Target Aircraft: Mach1.4 @ 30,000 ft
Expected max range: 15.5 km
These are the two rear aspect shots we have data for.
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Important to note those are maximum range shots though, whereas the slide appears to be more concerned with the no escape zone.
there aren’t any flares listed on the DA2, so what do you think the chances are that they add it this December but add flares like they did with the F5C
DA2 doesn’t have the flare dispensers actually fit, only the bump. As well is its BOL pods only ever had the blank in the back to fill the hole, I doubt they were ever wired up as well.
Is the rear aspect range not essentially the “no escape zone”?
If it is, we can assume those numbers are optimal for a base and we can multiply by those given from meteor documentation / claims?
Good point I suppose it depends on your definition of no escape zone, it seems to be one of those terms no one completely agrees on the meaning of. In the front aspect the most common definition seems to be the range at which the missile can still hit the target if the target does a 180° turn at 7-9g (different sources seem to give different values) and runs away from you as soon as the missile is launched.
So I guess you could argue that rear aspect NEZ would just be the aircraft running away from you in a straight line. Or alternatively I guess you could define it to mean the target aircraft does some sort of high g manoeuvre to try and defeat the missile.
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