Eurofighter Typhoon (UK versions) - Technical data and discussion (Part 1)

This isn’t a claim, this is entirely my opinion I have no source saying XYZ is better. I also used the word best for its subjectivity, as though Legion could beat PIRATE in range (who knows there are no figures but PIRATE is beating literally everything else we have figures for), PIRATE has its own advantages.

Legion is passive akin to PIRATE which is an advantage it will have over any other fighter bar Typhoon.

  • Irregardless of that, PIRATE is integrated into the airframe, Legion is also described as being ‘plug and play’ I have no proof but that generally suggests a lower level of systems fusion. Furthermore, as of the Director Operational Test and Evaluation report 2021 the pod had angle of attack limitations and could not be used within the entirety of the flight envelope. Thereby ‘gimping’ the aircrafts flight performance, PIRATE has no adverse effects/limitations.

  • Secondly Legion has virtually no performance figures available, so for the in-game portion that makes it pretty unlikely it will even be added due to lack of information, hence why for the F-22 portion I note ‘figures are released’. Meanwhile there is strong evidence suggesting at least 150-165km range for PIRATE vs fighter-sized targets and a minimum of 80-93km.

  • Thirdly, (and I may be reading too much into this), but Lockheed Martin seem to suggest it has vulnerabilities with range Lockheed Martin Are quoted here ‘In a press release, Lockheed Martin likens the range-finding ability to human binocular vision — in which two eyes, rather than one provide us with rapid depth perception and a 3D view of the world.’. This is the second mention I have found as to its range-accuracy from official representatives. Which essentially suggests pairing the systems alleviates issues PIRATE does not even have (publicly, who knows).
    Whereas PIRATE whilst less precise than CAPTOR-M, has never had the suggestion put forward of using datalink between 2 Legion-equipped fighters to obtain precise firing solutions, as can be seen int that source.

  • Range-wise, this Superhornet development spokesman Captain Jason Denney is quoted as saying: ‘we’ve improved the optical design and the detector technology to get up with the 30 years of advancements, and then to provide some improved sensitivity and performance’. Which if anything implies that they worked more on its False-alarm rates.
    He is also quoted as saying on its accuracy 'I can then tell generally which direction he’s going, but without knowing something about the range or something about the velocity, I gotta make some assumptions… ', here

Its not that Legion won’t have come a long way since Tomcat eyes but it is based on Tomcat Eyes (though that needed TCS to achieve its maximal performance which this naturally lacks) and most of the upgrades have been to reliability and software integration. Also to achieve precise, and long-range detection against bombers Tomcat Eyes required TCS, which Legion lacks.

Again, this isn’t an IRL comparison there are no figures for Legion, but its clear it isn’t quite finished and, based on available stuff on PIRATE and available stuff on IRST21/Legion, I’ll pretty confidently say I think PIRATE will be better.

(P.S pls no-one bite my head off this was a surface level flick)

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How dare you voice your opinion, you shall be executed promptly. Always interesting learning about how complicated these system are.

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The Eurofighter has 2 pesa jammers on the left wing, one foward and backwards. For elevation, there are two detectors in each wing
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Its three AESA radars. APA = AESA. euroDASS radars

APA=Active Phased Array. Just explaining what the abbreviation means.

There are only 2 aesa radars

There are 3 in service, and 2 other prototypes.

ECRS MK.0, ECRS MK.1, ECRS MK.2 are in service, AMSAR (which i’m pretty sure is different to CAESAR) and CAESAR are prototypes/research arrays which were discarded.

Sources

The Eurofighter’s AESA radars – Defense Archives
New Radar, Game-changing Capability | Eurofighter Typhoon
https://www.hensoldt.net/fileadmin/HENSOLDT_2019/Products/Radar_IFF_Datalink/0717_14_Captor_E.pdf

“in service”

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I say that in the loosest sense possible for simplicity’s sake, ECRS MK.1 and 2 are still being worked up.

Perhaps ‘slated to enter service’ would have been the better turn of phrase

2 AESA jammers, not radar types.

The left front wingtip is apparently empty

So the EF has ESM in both pods and ECM in the non decoy one.
Though natturaly theDecoy as ECM abilitys

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so apparently BAE is adversitising double rails for BVRAAM missiles

Full video:
https://x.com/BAESystemsAir/status/1810660585287094301

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We knew about them for a while

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ah ok : (
I posted it because the last evidence I saw about it was in 2019 when they showed that eurofighter render with the double meteor rack, I didn’t know that it was showed again since then.

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Thanks :)

I have not seen these, I appreciate you sharing this. I knew there was the twin IR pylon we have observed on Spanish Typhoons and also mentioned here in this document from @Flame2512
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But this seems to showcase dual missile pylons for L/MRAAM’s which I believe is new in addition to what looks like some sorta other rail attached to the pylon (hopefully BOL)?

Thanks for sharing mate this is cool.

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Ah don’t worry, I was ironic in the first part of the message. Btw I alredy saw the various documents about the twin IR pilons, now we have to hope to see the double bvraam pilons in future. Maiby they will be avaible with the T4/T5 or with the new P4EB standard.

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Larger drop tanks too?

yeah apparently

They have had them for years, just never used. Those look more flat though

these are IR missiles, the double pilon here shows bvraam

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