No way dude, that one guy 50+ km away might spot you and get to you before the Mach 3 missile closes a 2km distance…
True, I forgot Su-30s and Rafales had terrible radars and were 100% dependent on visually spotting aircraft
Yes, the fighter jet mafia was correct. Truly VID targets with binoculars like the A10 is the superior method.
Fighters don’t need radars.
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Its been ongoing since the introduction of the Typhoon 6 months ago. Other radars have had issues with TWS+ but Id still list CAPTOR-M as the weakest “Advanced” radar in the Briitsh TT
Because its range is terrible meaning you rarely can fire a surprise shot and its the weakest dogfighting missile in game at top tier. Let alone the fact its very easy to defeat, especially in any aspect other than direct rear.
It would be good for semi-BVR with fixed lock ranges but compared to Magic II and R-73 for WVR, its by far the weakest
compared to similar mech scan radars of other trees it is on par or better
it is borderline unflareable from side aspect and it order to flare you need to actually see where its coming from to align yourself properly, which is problematic because it is invisible.
Its weaker than the Blue Vixen and Foxhunter. Period. Only radar its stronger than is the Su-27s
It gets 1 flare defeated all the time for me unless its rear-aspect
weird considering its the weakest in rear aspect, i dont think ive ever had someone flare mine from anything other than direct rear aspect.
i mean i guess? pretty much every mech scan has near identical stats so yeah it would only really be beating out the su27s, but the ef has nctr which not everything else dose which is a massive benefit
Just forgetting its buggy nature. Its missing features that should make it more like an E-Scan radar not an M-Scan.
The fact its even close to other M-Scan radars shows its underperforming massively.
underperforming? sure, wouldnt be surprised if every mech scan radar was underperforming due to gaijins methods of modeling, bad? absolutely not.
It is bad. Its one of the weakest radars above 13.0 and the weakest radar by far at 14.0.
and it is underperforming a LOT
Medium scan is decent, small scan is very good, always works but for some reason has utter terrible vertical scan angles, wide scan is just mid af. Whenever I use eurofighter, most of the time i use medium scan to find people then either rat in irst or switch to small scan for bvr. Medium scan is decent but loses track too much for my liking, small scan is simply the best because it always works/very consistent. Ofc, because it’s an M-scan, if there are many enemies on opposing gimbal limits on the radar, then ofc the radar is kinda cooked because it doesn’t get any priority/multiple track like pesa/aesa. The radar is decent in a vaccum, but compared to what it is irl and considering other planes have better M-scan patterns (f-15e, f16c etc) the eft radar is kinda dissapointing.
That for me only works about 60% of the time. I still have it loose targets especially within about 10km all the time with narrow scan
Though it should, it literally should have priority track
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i do not notice a difference between f16/f18/ef radar and any performance deficits that may or may not exist are more than made up for by the euros nctr in my opinion, its not bad its just okay.
That’s true, but atp youre in visual range and can just hmd them very easily. But it is annoying I agree
IK it has it irl, but how would that even work on a mech-scan radar? PESA/AESA it’s obvious how it works on them, but how would it work on a mech-scan? Wouldn’t the refresh rate be utterly horrible?
Not always in SB, especially in look down. (and quite frankly “hard lock with HMD” just screams major radar issue)
@MythicPi did the math, it would update something like every 2-ish seconds. and would be easy to implement with the current code. Remember the CAPTOR-M can move its radar at 333°/sec
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It’s 70 degrees per second, idk where you’re getting 333 from. That is an absurd number.
I also play it mainly in sb, and my stats while not the best, are decent. OFC my rafale stats are much better because rafale is a literal baby plane lol. Su30 stats are also better becuase man that radar carriers it even though its FM is so mid.
Scan rate doesnt = the speed it can move its pedestal
second to last bullet point on the right.
I have straight up stopped playing the Typhoon. I cant be bothered to spend my entire time baby sitting the radar just to have every AMRAAM I fire shot down with ease by an Su-30 with more than double my ARH count (I only run 5 AMRAAM usually)
Its stupid that the best M-Scan radar in the world, cant keep lock on something barely turning and will sometimes straight up not detect something I can see visually from the contrails.
The only solution being “HMD the target” just screams broken radar to me. I have never once needed to “hard lock a contact” in the Tornado F3 until I was ready to actually fire a Skyflash and in the FA2 or Gripen I’ve never had an issue maintaining a track with TWS to guide an AMRAAM or R-Darter
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Broken is a bit of an overstatement, at close range yeah it struggles but so are most other mech scan radars at that range, OFC pesa/aesa radars don’t have any trouble at close range. Radar is meant for long range engagements anyways, at close range you really should be switching to HMD. Yes it means the radar is mid at close range but that’s not unique to the typhoon.
Have you played it recently? The radar is really not that bad compared to what it was before double scan fix, it feels perfectly normal to me. Basically on par with every other mech scan radar. Also how far out are you shooting amraams, usually for me they don’t have to be on data link at all becuase they go either instantly pitbull or they go pitbull in less than 5 seconds.
Again, never struggled with the FA2, Gripen or F3.
It is in my experience, heck, I have an easier time with the Blue Fox than I do with the CAPTOR-M at close range.
I played it tonight, constant ghost contacts, the track was just randomly jumping between real and fake marks and more than once I could barely get it to actually hard lock the thing I was apparently tracking on TWS.
I will still choose Blue Vixen or Foxhunter over it currently any day of the week.
Usually in the LSZ if I can, because firing from any further away from that and they are just instantly defeated
Honestly at this point, I think they should just give us CAPTOR-E. Its pretty clear the US are about to get an F-15 or F-18 with AESA. Japan is about to get AESA. Sweden is about to get AESA. At this rate, we’ll be one of the only nations with a basic M-Scan radar because they probably wont actually model Priority track on a M-Scan radar because “game limitaitons”
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