Eurofighter Typhoon - Germany's Best Fighter Jet

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They’re giving it the 9M precisely because otherwise it would not have a smokeless missile.

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The 9M was and is smokeless that was not a distinction between the German EF and others. The distinction between them is Italy and Britain get pirate IRST and Britain also gets LWR

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Well we know it can super cruise above mach 1.7, can do falling leaf maneuver easily, range estimates for the radar 400-500km, as for its armament that is well known, I’m pretty sure there’s some cockpit pictures too for all that, and 0.0001 m^2 RCS from some angles. All that’s left is FM specifcs and RCS

Didnt realize 9m was smokeless.

My point still stands.
Germany lacks IRST, same missiles as the UK one.
UK/FRA has it.
What is the KEY ELEMENT that separates Germany’s EF from UKs EF?

Ahh. Another + for UK EF!

and melt it’s RAM, yeah i’m not exactly sure that’s operational procedure

they could also just give it smoke and better IRCCM but copy pasta is easier i guess

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You made your point already, there isn’t one, it’s outright worse

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It’s limited to Mach 2.2 because that’s the speed at which RAM damage occurs, 1.7 is superCRUISE speed so it’ll be fine

Hopefully the Mod who made the statement sees this :D and could provide more context for us.

All CCs are engaging with same playebase pool. Which is mostly full of people with sub 1:0 KD - noobs.
If they had to face actually competent people in BVR, they would have hard time. But guess, in sims? These people are usually on their side as they tend to fly against spam of US teams.
Killing average US main joe aint nothing special.

And most people in 23s were dying. Guess why its 11.3 in sim and J/S is 12.0 and face these like once a week.

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Britain was the only nation out of the 3 who bought and installed LWR for typhoons. Just incase you start asking why Germany doesn’t have it

Yes but i don’t know why we didn’t see another compare between the two after 2012 .

Mmmmm, I don’t think so, because you know better than me that the Rafale was designed for omnirole tasks (just to clarify, the Rafale doesn’t have air-to-ground missiles because, as is well known, they are not as precise as the AASM), while the Typhoon was built primarily for air superiority.

As examples of missions the Rafale can perform but the Eurofighter Typhoon cannot:

  1. Nuclear Deterrence
  2. Aircraft Carrier Operations
  3. Simultaneous Multirole Missions

We could also add the fact that the Rafale can carry more weight than the Typhoon as well.

No, still need F-18 it won’t even push the meta it looks cool though.

If we consider Germany the baseline Typhoon

Italy Gains IRST

Britain gains IRST and LWR (also the better looking camos :P )

Waste of dev resources for now, you can wait in line with the ww2 prototype queue

i’m buying a premium to finish britain just for the blackjack skin, never thought I would see that in wt lol

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Itll be a good 13.3 or 7, would offer different play style to F-16 with amazing low speed handling, and if it’s a USMC one it has a lot of weapons options

The MLD has been substantially nerfed and the 7F has been substantially buffed since the time im referring to. Thats why the MLD is now 11.3 in sim and the 4J/S are 12.0.

Also, you’re argument is just “i dont like what the CC’s say so nothing you can say will convince me they might be right”

The M2K5F wasnt doing amazing because all french pilots are cracked out of their mind 300 iq aces of aces as they like to pretend. They were doing well cuz the plane is crazy good and nearly perfectly fits WT. The Rafale just expands on everything that made the M2K5F great ingame.

I still think 11.3 is an insane BR for it considering its still one of the fastset and best equipped aircraft of that BR. but that is a debate for another thread

Because there hasn’t been a competition in which they directly faced off since then…?

Mmmmm, I don’t think so, because you know better than me that the Rafale was designed for omnirole tasks.

Makes next to no sense, but anyways, I’ve got to agree. Eurofighter isn’t an Omni-role aircraft (so my bad), it is however, an excellent Multi-role design, in terms of A2A & A2G, on top of SEAD/DEAD (upcoming T5s), it outshines the Rafale, especially once we factor in the latest Tranches like the Luftwaffe’s T4 or UK’s, and you wouldn’t believe, FGR.4 (they really gotta name it something else by now…) due to bigger (not necessarily heavier) loadouts - I mean, you aren’t gonna try’n’argue that having 6xAASM is the same as having 6 - 12x Brimstone 2/3s and 2 - 4 GBUs on top, are ya? The sheer quantity is on the Eurofighter’s side.

(just to clarify, the Rafale doesn’t have air-to-ground missiles because, as is well known, they are not as precise as the AASM), while the Typhoon was built primarily for air superiority

And how do you know “air-to-ground missiles” (in this case, Brimstones & SPEAR 3s) aren’t as precise as the AASM…?