You joking right??? Strike eagle is STILL best top tier jet as of now due to radar issues of EF (then it can still carry more amraams which is THE meta) and it carries more reliable countermesures.
Rafale cant come even close no matter how many micas you throw on it as they are rocks once they burn out and are nowhere near amraam.
F-15E/I in their current states are still top dogs and there is literally BIG FAT ZERO need for new US or IAF top tiers. What is needed is Russian and Swedish top tier. Maybe Japan but F15C is still there and super capable.
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F-22 with no HMS and 9M’s
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It does but that whole scan takes eternity to complete. Once you complete it and establish tracks, it literally doesnt matter. They are updated no matter where it sweeps.
So only thing that changes with bug fix is how fast you find these targets.
What changes on M-scan of EF is that you will get LARGEST volume out of M-scans with quick 3.5 sec refresh. It literally changes whole radar. What changes on AESA is only time for establishing the tracks, nothing else.
I cant speak to RB, but most CC’s seem to agree he Rafale is the best jet at top tier atm and that was before the CM buff and extra 2 MICA’s.
In sim the Rafale is probably the new king, particularly since they just “fixed” the only 2 “problems” it had, and it already has the beat situational awareness and best close range missiles in-game by a country mile. The only “problem” left for the Rafale in sim is its not great at doing multirole stuff (just doesnt have the correct ordinance on the correct pylons to do so).
The MICA’s range isnt really a problem when you can just wait near notch for them to get in range and then just crush them WVR for free.
Yeah that’s the 2005 spec, would only have 120C aswell
CCs are usually D*mb. Only reason why they agree on it is because people will literally fly into you and close range on their own into effective range of mica. NOONE IS FORCING THEM TO DO IT.
F15s, EFs, F-16s all can stay away and are faster than rafale. Some of them significantly. Yet they close in and die. Not my problem that they cant use their advantage and they play it like 2ww props instead.
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Could you expand upon the Key Differences between the UK and Ger one?
Germans “key element” WAS their smokeless missile.
Rafale has AESA radar…
Now it doesnt have it.
Rafale/UK EF have IRST, what is Germany’s key element?
It plays like the M2k-5F but better in virtually every regard, that jet was already my favourite in the game and personally is MY meta jet since the way I play the M2K completely denies SPAMRAAM and allows me to close distance on spaceclimbing F-15s without entering contrails or being picked up by multipathing targets.
Might just grind out the Rafale since that playstyle is my favourite way to play Air RB
It does. The 9Li-1 has been replaced by the 9M (EU morning is when that will go “live”).
worse IR missiles ig
Correct. it now loses it smokeless 9M.
Germany lacks IRST.
Britain has 9m already.
The Key Element difference between UK and Germany was the smokeless missile, now gone.
oh alr, this is exactly why I decided to wait before grinding my typhoon, I want all of these shitty bugs and QoL issues ruled out before dedicating time into it
Theres a difference between one CC saying something and all CC’s saying something.
The same point can be used againat the AMRAAM btw, nothing is forcing you to go headon to an AMRAAM, you can just sit near the notch until they inevitably close the distance or run out of missilez.
This is the same situation as the MiG-23MLD vs F-4J back in the day. The MLD could not compete at range vs the 7F, but it could just fly in the notch until the F-4J got close or ran out of 7F’s and then it was a free kill for it.
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They’re giving it the 9M precisely because otherwise it would not have a smokeless missile.
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The 9M was and is smokeless that was not a distinction between the German EF and others. The distinction between them is Italy and Britain get pirate IRST and Britain also gets LWR
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Well we know it can super cruise above mach 1.7, can do falling leaf maneuver easily, range estimates for the radar 400-500km, as for its armament that is well known, I’m pretty sure there’s some cockpit pictures too for all that, and 0.0001 m^2 RCS from some angles. All that’s left is FM specifcs and RCS
Didnt realize 9m was smokeless.
My point still stands.
Germany lacks IRST, same missiles as the UK one.
UK/FRA has it.
What is the KEY ELEMENT that separates Germany’s EF from UKs EF?
Ahh. Another + for UK EF!
and melt it’s RAM, yeah i’m not exactly sure that’s operational procedure
they could also just give it smoke and better IRCCM but copy pasta is easier i guess
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