Eurofighter Typhoon - Germany's Best Fighter Jet

[AblativeKitten]

So does the 2A4M and the CR2 TES/OES iirc
In battle rn but I’ll check in a minute (The Thai M60A3 stock grind is pain)

[Pheonix_RX01]

We’re kinda going off topic so lets bring it to its correct forum lol.

[Thodin]

Sry, ist the Vilkas, not the MGS.

[warthogboy09]

@Cpt_Bel_V

how Tanks can decoy those (smokes aren’t a protection for such system,

@Cpt_Bel_V

thanks to recall my primary point:

Your original point is incorrect. Multi-spectral smoke is known to exist, at least in NATO spheres.

So a fair gaming convention is to say “above X BR all smokes are multi-spectral” and boom done, now all tanks that see MMW, have an active counter, same as IIR munitions.

[ron_23]

@warthogboy09

So a fair gaming convention is to say “above X BR all smokes are multi-spectral” and boom done, now all tanks that see MMW, have an active counter, same as IIR munitions.

yeah would be similar to what they did to spall liners, where they disapear after being hit once

[warthogboy09]

We can go decades into the past to find fielded munitions.

Eurofighter Typhoon (UK versions) - Technical data and discussion (Part 1)

I can prove the MMW / IIR obscurant smoke formulation M81 exists, as to if only the Abrams ever was furnished with it I couldn’t say for certain as it’s a 66mm grenade form factor, a common NATO standard caliber for dispensers (e.g. M250, M239, M243, and similar Dischargers) so many disparate installations could theoretically fit the Grenade. The advanced development program for the M81 grenade was conducted from 1987 to 1992. in the transition to full scale development, the Operational Requi…

End of story. The “MMW has no counter” is BS.

[Cpt_Bel_V]

@warthogboy09

Multi-spectral smoke is known to exist,

multispectral can be UV/Visual/IR
nothing says radar ones are done.

[warthogboy09]

read the document stupid frog.

Millimeter/Infrared Screening, M81

Spoiler

Since you are probably too stupid or lazy

[Cpt_Bel_V]

i was answering to a previous post,… rosbif boy ^^

and yet, what’s the size of the grenade,… because last time i checked, a 76mm can enter in 40mm tube and doesn’t work in 80mm tube, and it seems Abrams used 66mm tube

76mm is German Leopard
40mm is KF-41
80mm is Leclerc

[Inverse_Hair_Law]

All nations already uses exactly the same types of airborne countermeasure no matter the caliber/nation/manufacturer?? Why should gaijin model smoke any differently?

[warthogboy09]

Hey pal… Just blow in from stupid town?

@warthogboy09

So a fair gaming convention is to say “above X BR all smokes are multi-spectral” and boom done, now all tanks that see MMW, have an active counter, same as IIR munitions.

@Cpt_Bel_V

rosbif boy

A warthog is not beef, or a bovine at all.

[Morvran]

Do Gaijin model smoke differently?

Correct me if im wrong but smoke (not ESS but actual smoke grenades) i think block IR at every single BR. Something tells me a WW2 tank wasnt operating IR-CM smoke

(Ive never actually tested this, but Im fairly certain I recall Tiger IIs still blocking TVD on the sriker back when they could see each other)

[warthogboy09]

@Morvran

i think block IR at every single BR. Something tells me a WW2 tank wasnt operating IR-CM smoke

Since then they have changed it to smoke mortars not blocking IR, but I believe actual smoke dispensers still do.

[Inverse_Hair_Law]

Yeah in that case even more reason for radar coutermeasures to be modelled if they already apply this blanket modelling system to smokes.

[Dontkev-psn]

@Morvran

Do Gaijin model smoke differently?

nope, i tried once to report on the smoke duration, not a bug, all smoke nades are the same in game
Source: Community Bug Reporting System

[tripod2008]

Neat, going stick this report in my back pocket. Might prove useful.

[quartas121]

@warthogboy09

A warthog is not beef, or a bovine at all.

You tell em

[Pheonix_RX01]

Kinda looks like a Puma

[ShOt_MaCkEr]

URGENT NEWS.
Guys, avoiding BUK is actually not only possible, but quite easy, idk why but I share my experience with you - just face the launch direction and do barrel rolls, lol. Was chaffing all the way too, but don’t think it matters.

[Thodin]

Would BUK work vs. very low flying jets?