As far as I understand, all Typhoons have a “smaller scan area with each sweep” and a reduced range for lock-on and detection. I can’t tell if the lock is better or if it finds targets more reliably.
Why the hell would they nerf the radar? like its already the worst top tier radar in the game, such a gaijin moment.
Incompetent that what it is
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I discussed this with @Flame2512 the nerf to scan volume is likely due to the fact the beam itself was narrowed (angle half sensitivity dropped ~25%, so did the vertical scan volume). Had they not done this, there was possibly a chance the radars scan pattern would have “cracks” in it where it could miss a jet that was within the scan pattern.
That being said though, the CAPTOR-M irl has more bar options, such as a 6 bar option and an 8 bar option. At 6 bars it would scan slightly more vertical area than current. 6 bars would suck atm though because of the incorrect scan patterns currently used in-game. Until those are fixed, high bar counts are a disadvantage.
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It hasn’t been nerfed… The MPRF had a hard cap at 74km. So the 300km was meaningless. It now works properly.
MPRF is now 80-150km
HPRF is now 150-200km
LPRF is now 200km
Detection to track is alot quicker, range much greater, returns are stronger as well, HMD track is much more responsive (almost feels instant now).
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That good to hear, i was worried that we’d take the vertical scan volume nerf and not get a whole lot in return for it beyond the radar working a bit better. Glad to hear the fix was substantial. The loss of scan volume still hurts tho :(
Volume-wise it looks exactly the same its barely noticeable.
I just noticed, where is the ground search radar where Smin said we would get it soon
Still Soon™ I think.
That can’t be possible, it lost around ~26% of its vertical scan volume. It physically cannot be exactly the same.
You cant drop the vertical scan volume from 11.4 deg down to 8.4 deg and say its barely noticeable.
Tried to get the top bar to the edge of the sweep, but the area is barely different at all. So we’ve not lost any volume to worry about.
4 bar medium;
2 bar narrow;
Spoiler
2 bar wide
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Not exactly sure what your pics are supposed to be showing here since theres no before and after compairison, but unless im completely misunderstanding something, its physically impossible for the reduction in bar height to have no impact on the scan volume.
Almost all, if not all scan modes from the datamine have had their bar heights reduced by between ~25-27%. The one i know off the top of my head for example is 2.85 deg down to 2.1 deg, on the 70 deg x 4 bar scan. Without changing bar count, this should means the scanned area drops from 70x11.4deg down to 70x8.4deg, which is a significant change.
For those who might be wondering what the Rafale has btw, its 70x31deg, which it scans MUCH faster as well. The radars arent even comparable in the slightest, Rafale blows everyones radar out of the water except the Su-34’s…
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I’m showing roughly its the same area, yes I know its smaller, but it doesn’t feel at all impactful.
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Doesnt matter at all in air RB, it matters a ton in sim, which is what I play.
Its almost equivalent to losing ~26% of your eyesight and then being told its not really a big deal…
Personally, I do play in sim too, not sure if you do BVR, but it works very well in dogfights, which is pretty fun ngl, but yes, i’ve used it in BVR and it has been terrible.
Blue Vixen has a 6 bar narrow scan in the manual I could make a suggestion for that, but until the repeating bar issue is fixed that might not feel so good.
4 bar wide (140) is also possible.
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Thats a marked improvement!
That might be the only option tbh. I know the Tyhpoon has up to 8 bars irl, and can modify its bar height pretty substantially on very narrow scans but dont have a useable source for that unfortunately, so until then the Blue Vixen 6 bar narrow might be the only option.
The decrease in vertical scan area actually hits the Typhoon particularly hard imo because of the DASS display in the cockpit. One of the issues that can occur when trying to aquire a target thats already locking you is either getting the azimuth or elevation of your radar wrong long enough for you not to be able to retaliate. Digital RWR’s help a lot with nose pointing for azimuth, but the Thypoons DASS display actually allows you to ALWAYS get the azimuth right, even on a very narrow scan, which means the only issue you can have with trying to acquire a target thats on RWR is getting elevation wrong.
If the EFT’s had a large vertical scan volume narrow azimuth mode, theyd be able to mitigate this much better, but atm the 70x11.4 deg was the highest vertical scan volume BVR mode for the radar iirc, so it dropping to 70x8.4 deg stings.
Like I said tho, I rather a functional radar that scans less than an unreliable one that scans more, so ill take this whole change as a win for the time being.