We had them tested since long ago they just werent officialy in service
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Thank you very much, now I can use this in disputes).
In that case be warned.
The people gonna argue that the ipa 07 is a specific prototype aircraft and not part of the official airforce.
Fact still stays its a german aircraft that used brimstones.
Additionaly its the aircraft that received the PIRATE as well that got added now.
As you can see in this picture as well.
Many people generaly dont understand armament gets added with compatibility not useablitiy.
Germany is the only nation that wants to use spice 250, yet here we are all nations receiving it as well
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Nobody is complaining about it until things like AMK are brought into the conversation and gatekept
If they are then they’re wrong gameplay>nationalistic gatekeeping
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The only reason why people wanted the AMK to be gatekept is because literally everything gets shared now on technical compatibility except for the radar which solely screws germany. People are annoyed by the double standard not by italy and UK players rightfully wanting AMK as well. But of course when the answer to “can we have MK2 then”? is “no germany didnt order/test/field that one” then people look for examples that fit the same category but in the other direction.
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Yeah but my comment on the other UK thread explaining the difference and recommending the addition of ECRS MK.0 got 20 likes, this discussion also predates the ECRS radars and goes back to PIRATE which as I already proved explicitly had absolutely NOTHING to do with Germany.
I get being irritated at the double standard, but this isn’t a Germany players vs The other EFT nations argument like it’s being made into, it’s a this is unnecessarily penalising from Gaijin please find a solution discussion.
Very few people on Mythics topic were saying nah keep Germany with just MK.1 and have it be worse.
And the no they didn’t order test field etc this one argument only lasts until you consider funding at which point, it settles the argument, everyone funded AMK and Germany funded MK.0 the only thing you’d lose out on is PIRATE and the LWS if you consider funding and not those factors.
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I mean arguably already the case with germany getring the worse radar and no lws
But those are not considered armament
Like i said i 100% think that Italy and the UK should get the AMK as well, im just explaining that the gatekeeping of it is not based on malicious intent but on desparation as Gaijin already made it clear that the german EFT AESA wont get mk0 or mk2 so naturally people looked for an alternative to level (or in the case of AMK surpass) the battlefield that fit in the same reasoning as the mk0 mk2 denial. Especially in an update like this where equipment gets shared around like candy on halloween the frustration that led to the, granted unfair, request of AMK should be kinda understandable
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The other thing is AMK is a Module.
Even if it brings the biggest changes yet to the FM of the eurofighter. It should be threated like LWS, radar and CO.
And currently germany is the only nation that tested it and is eligble to get it. Thats a fact.
Besides that germany is the nation that ordered it already.
It is a completly optional upgrade and not mandatory for p4e.
And i am not aware of an explicit statement of UK to get it
AMK has was funded and already paid for by Germany, Britain and Italy iirc
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Yeah that is kinda my point. AMK, Brimstone, Spice, Paveway4, everything gets shared but the radar has a no share policy for some reason. Its just a double standard that exclusively hurts germany.
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Development funding doesnt mean it gets put into service. There is many factor that can decide against it.
You are invited to provide clear sources UK and italy ordered AMK
and you are invited to provide sources stating that they are not.
As far as I am aware, neither nation has committed to what they are and are not going to be upgrading as part of the P4E. The RAF is probably also looking into expanded CM count (64 to 150 large internal CMs) and Striker II. Maybe also full Spear intergration as well. There is also the PIRATE upgrade. We’ll probably get more details over the next or so with what the RAF is going to be doing as part of their upgrade. Italy is probably going to be another few years though.
AMK is optional, not necesarily part of P4E. So again. Point stands only germany has tested AMK specialy and special orders for AMK
So as of right now only germany is eligble to receive an AMK plane in war thunder
No, that is incorrect. It was mounted onto a Consortium Typhoon based in Germany, but has been flown by RAF and Italian Pilots too rather than doing local installation and tests which is just a waste of money.
So again, they are the first, not necessarily the only one
Then Only Britain is eligible to recieve Brimstones by that logic? Also remove PIRATE from the Germany Typhoon too?
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Ipa 07 has clear allegiance to germany
Pirate and brimstone are tested by germany🤷
Brimstone even clearly ordered already as well
I am not arguing that, but right now only germany is known.
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The reason everything is being given to all except for radars is because there is plans to intergrate those systems into eurofighter as a whole.
The radars are independently funded tailored to what those countries want. Germany Spain decided what they wanted for the mk1 Britain and Italy decided we want do something different so this is what we want.
So why would Germany get the mk2 when it has the mk1.
AMK was funded by all countries in the eurofighter consortium with the intent to equip aircraft with it. Otherwise why would they all fund it but only 1 nation intend to use it? If that was the case Germany could have just independently funded AMK.
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If Germany and Germany alone gets the massive upgrade that is AMK based upon “Consortium aircraft based in Germany is German” then Brimstones should be the exclusive upgrade for the British Typhoon, along with most of the CAS options and the Italy should be the only nation that can field both ASRAAMs and IRIS-Ts at the same time.
To expect the German Typhoon to just be better because “Germany must be the best” is just stupid.
Again prove the use /order by UK for AMK.
Germany for the same reason has no LWS, cause we never used it.
We got Pirate now cause we did as a matter of fact test it
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Modules and armament are differently handled by gajin.
They have shown that.
Germany has sourced as well just saying
We never stated that.
Besides better is relative. You would still have a better radar. Which has clear advantages as well
The lws and i am not aware if germany wants the improved countermeausures.
It leads to each eft having different strengths.
As it is already
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