Like i said i 100% think that Italy and the UK should get the AMK as well, im just explaining that the gatekeeping of it is not based on malicious intent but on desparation as Gaijin already made it clear that the german EFT AESA wont get mk0 or mk2 so naturally people looked for an alternative to level (or in the case of AMK surpass) the battlefield that fit in the same reasoning as the mk0 mk2 denial. Especially in an update like this where equipment gets shared around like candy on halloween the frustration that led to the, granted unfair, request of AMK should be kinda understandable
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The other thing is AMK is a Module.
Even if it brings the biggest changes yet to the FM of the eurofighter. It should be threated like LWS, radar and CO.
And currently germany is the only nation that tested it and is eligble to get it. Thats a fact.
Besides that germany is the nation that ordered it already.
It is a completly optional upgrade and not mandatory for p4e.
And i am not aware of an explicit statement of UK to get it
AMK has was funded and already paid for by Germany, Britain and Italy iirc
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Yeah that is kinda my point. AMK, Brimstone, Spice, Paveway4, everything gets shared but the radar has a no share policy for some reason. Its just a double standard that exclusively hurts germany.
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Development funding doesnt mean it gets put into service. There is many factor that can decide against it.
You are invited to provide clear sources UK and italy ordered AMK
and you are invited to provide sources stating that they are not.
As far as I am aware, neither nation has committed to what they are and are not going to be upgrading as part of the P4E. The RAF is probably also looking into expanded CM count (64 to 150 large internal CMs) and Striker II. Maybe also full Spear intergration as well. There is also the PIRATE upgrade. We’ll probably get more details over the next or so with what the RAF is going to be doing as part of their upgrade. Italy is probably going to be another few years though.
AMK is optional, not necesarily part of P4E. So again. Point stands only germany has tested AMK specialy and special orders for AMK
So as of right now only germany is eligble to receive an AMK plane in war thunder
No, that is incorrect. It was mounted onto a Consortium Typhoon based in Germany, but has been flown by RAF and Italian Pilots too rather than doing local installation and tests which is just a waste of money.
So again, they are the first, not necessarily the only one
Then Only Britain is eligible to recieve Brimstones by that logic? Also remove PIRATE from the Germany Typhoon too?
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Ipa 07 has clear allegiance to germany
Pirate and brimstone are tested by germany🤷
Brimstone even clearly ordered already as well
I am not arguing that, but right now only germany is known.
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The reason everything is being given to all except for radars is because there is plans to intergrate those systems into eurofighter as a whole.
The radars are independently funded tailored to what those countries want. Germany Spain decided what they wanted for the mk1 Britain and Italy decided we want do something different so this is what we want.
So why would Germany get the mk2 when it has the mk1.
AMK was funded by all countries in the eurofighter consortium with the intent to equip aircraft with it. Otherwise why would they all fund it but only 1 nation intend to use it? If that was the case Germany could have just independently funded AMK.
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If Germany and Germany alone gets the massive upgrade that is AMK based upon “Consortium aircraft based in Germany is German” then Brimstones should be the exclusive upgrade for the British Typhoon, along with most of the CAS options and the Italy should be the only nation that can field both ASRAAMs and IRIS-Ts at the same time.
To expect the German Typhoon to just be better because “Germany must be the best” is just stupid.
Again prove the use /order by UK for AMK.
Germany for the same reason has no LWS, cause we never used it.
We got Pirate now cause we did as a matter of fact test it
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Modules and armament are differently handled by gajin.
They have shown that.
Germany has sourced as well just saying
We never stated that.
Besides better is relative. You would still have a better radar. Which has clear advantages as well
The lws and i am not aware if germany wants the improved countermeausures.
It leads to each eft having different strengths.
As it is already
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meanwhile you are demanding the German one must be the worst
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Thats just plain not true. Theres no plans to integrate spice on UK Typhoons and no orders or plans for AMK.
For the same reason the UK and Italy get Spice and AMK, balance.
But expecting the UK Typhoon to be better because UK must be the best isnt?
The advantage gained by AMK dwarfs the advantages gained by Mk2.
Its like giving Britain MMW Spear-3s to compensate for the fact we dont get GBU-48s or ePaveway IIs.
Why, because we get LWS?
You are better in bvr and germany better in dogfights.
It just emphasis what is brought from iris-t and asraam.
Its your personal opinion.
But its just the fact currently until proven otherwise only germany is eligble for AMK.
You werent able tonprovide anything against my statements.
You only did whine about it currently that u dont like it
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AMK is part of Phase Enhancement 4
UK has paid for the Phase Enhancement 4
UK has paid to get AMK
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somebody mentioned AMK is an optional part of P4E