The mistake is using R77 to get kills, just trick them with R77 to play defensively then get them with the best missile the R27ER
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Funny that they say R-77 are worse ARH and they greatly suffer from it
R-darter/Derby anyone ever heard of that?
I think they are a bit worse than R-Darter, tbf ive had R77 just lose all speed because it decided to turn to hard trying to hit a target at 5km. Not often but R77 is pretty bad for long range thanks to drag. Honestly its why i still carry R27ER.
For R-77 long range is everything above 10km lol.
Doesn’t help that the only semi-competitive airframe using it also has a terrible radar.
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Honestly why i just stick to 13.0, no reason to play 13.7
when was the G overload reduced to 16G
Send an ET straight after the R-77 and they think they have defeated the missile when the RWR stops and bam the 27ET slams into them
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Darters from experience with the SA Gripen you dont want to use them any further than 8-10km.
Gripen has 4 R-Darters how many “terrible” R-77 can the Su-27 bring?
At least the Su-27SM can carry 8x R-77, J-11A at the same BR has the same radar and RWR as the 13.0 Su-27S, not to mention it is actually heavier than the Su-27 and doesn’t get the Su-27SM’s improved engines.
I know this isn’t a contest to which nation “suffers” more, but it is pretty funny.
EFT is 100% better than the Su-27SM, even with the radar deficiencies. Because the radar on the Su-27SM is comparable in terms of how horrible they are.
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I think the key difference here though, is that the Su-27SM has the correct radar bar a bug with the double scan and isnt underperforming in any notable way. Its just a bad radar.
Typhoon is underperforming significantly compared to IRL, with a number of outstanding bug reports and more than a few issues that are hard to report/document to look for a fix (things like the radar just not seeing a target is something I only experience with the Typhoon)
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lets revisit this when the Su-30 gets added with a PESA Radar, TVC and an insane flight model. The the US gets an F-15 with an AESA Radar. The Gripen E all the while the Typhoon is using a Radar that in game performs worse than the aircraft from the 80s
How long are Italian, German and UK mains going to have to wait for the Tranche 3/4 with an AESA Radar?
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Or even correctly modeled T2s
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You’ll still be able to see two missiles being fired and considering you’re being targeted by a RU plane, it’s pretty easy to assume one of those is the ET, so flaring a few times would be enough.
Judging from Russian get new planes every patch (and still not enough it seem) while German stuck with F-4F ICE for long
A year or two at least for them to get AESA EFT
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Yes, I know that the Eurofighter radar is underperforming vastly compared to its irl counterpart. I’m just saying that the Eurofighter is still better than the Su-27SM despite having the botched radar, it holds too much of an advantage in terms of flight performance to be a close fight, not to mention the Fox 3 kit.
Don’t get me wrong, the Eurofighter DESERVES a better radar, but I don’t believe in much of this supposed favoritism for other countries, at least in this regard. The Rafale similarly dropped with many issues and the road to get many of them fixed hasn’t been easy as well, and there are still aspects of the Rafale that are inaccurate to its irl counterpart.
Tranche 3 and 4 are pretty new developments, and I don’t think it is harsh to say that Eurofighter was rather late in incorporating an AESA radar compared to its contemporaries. Granted, it is notably ahead in terms of performance compared to RBE2 AESA, simply because the CAPTOR-E has more T/R modules, and the technology itself should be comparable, if not better than what France used.
Gaijin said that they will do something with the radar this patch, my suggestion is to wait and see if they actually go through with it, and how they will change the radar if that is the case. I most definitely hope that it is a buff.
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and much the same could have been said of the Tornado F3 vs Mig-29 or F4F-ICE vs Su-27SM. It is expected for the soviets to get a new top tier this coming major update, and god knows what it will be given to allow it to fight the EFT, maybe even pass it. Then they would have only wait 3 months rather than the 6 for Germany or 12 for Britain in their respective waits
Not all nations must be meta and its nice it isnt the soviets for a change. Heck the year of fighting against Mig-23MLDs also sucked, especially as our counter came so late it did little to help.
The reason why their is a large degree of annoyance regarding the Rafale is because it has gotten a number of features that should not be present on this exact version of the Rafale. Meanwhile similar such “Buffs” from later variants of the Typhoon have been denied so far. Such as Striker II HMD that would potentially give DL IFF for the HMD (some debate about whether this is a Striker II upgrade or whether the Striker I should be able to do it)
Heck the Typhoon has an AGM that it never used. Should be the Brimstone 2. It can keep SAL for now, but its annoying its got a nerf ontop of another nerf.
Its annoying that after 2 months, the Typhoon hasnt even gotten basic things fixed, let alone the big problems, but it seems like every other update has something for the Rafale.
If CAPTOR-M was at full strength, this wouldnt be quite as critical of an issue. But if it cannot be addressed quickly, especially before the introduction of a lot more AESA or PESA equipped top tier fighters (I give it 2 or 3 major updates until the Typhoon is the only top tier fighter without either) then the disadvantage will be deeply felt.
CAPTOR-E at that point needs to come sooner rather than later regardless of the state of the CAPTOR-M but especially if its still a buggy mess by then. Yes the Typhoon equipped them late, but given the Rafale has gotten a HMD that has just entered service on a later variant of the Rafale. Its not unreasonable to be annoyed by this disparity,
They also said the Challenger 2 was getting fixed, instead they nerfed it. I hold little faith when Gaijin makes promises like that these days. But yes, we do need to see. Likewise the soviets need to wait and see what they will get this major update before demanding Typhoon Nerfs as I have seen a few people call for
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It won’t happen unless Su-57. Any of Su-27/MiG-29 family left for now didn’t even get close to ingame EFT’s flight performance. Actually they have to worry of worsening, as weight increase is mostly bigger than thrust increase.
R-27ER…
The soviets have gotten an overwhelming AAM advantage in the past to compensate for short-comings. My fear is that the Su-30 that is expected will come with a notable and significant AAM upgrade to “compensate” for its short comings
That will also never going to happen. R-77’s enormous fin makes signifcant drag untill R-77M, which is developed for use in Su-57, and don’t have exact data in public.
Meanwhile, current AIM-120 A/B is far more superior than R-77(and possible R-77-1) although it’s ingame spec is weaker than real life.
Air superiority of USSR tree ends with ARM. R-37M is currently only realistic option(while this one also don’t have much public data), then westerns still outperforms with Meteor.
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Then there is little for them to do then. But calling for ahistorical nerfs to either the Typhoon or Aim-120 (which we have seen in the past few days on the Forums) is not the answer. Especially when both are already underperforming a fair bit for “balancing reasons”.
But again, we shall have to wait and see what Gaijin has planned for both the soviet TT and the Typhoon. Personally, im hoping to see the Typhoon get some notable buffs this major update. Not just a radar overhaul, but other buffs/fixes on other aspects, such as the HMD, Cockpit and especailly A2G buffs. Its missing most of its historical A2G loadout and what it does have is underperforming quite a bit (I personally care very little about ground modes, its frustrating having such a nerfed loadout in gamemodes like Air Sim)