Standard Luftwaffe Eurofighters do not have IRST. This is one of the key distinguishing visual features between them.
Luftaffe - No PIRATE, No LWR
Aeronautica Militare - PIRATE, No LWR
RAF - PIRATE and LWR
This is incorrect. The Brimstone in game is the Dual Mode Brimstone locked to its SAL mode. However the base version of the weapon is Brimstone Dual Mode. Basic Brimstone (1) was not capable of SAL guidance.
So its distinguishing trait is being objectively worse, gotcha.
This is incorrect.
You can quit arguing semantics. It being locked to SAL makes it SAL only and thus it isn’t Dual Mode as the “other mode” isn’t even available, and it doesn’t have the range or speed of a Brimstone 2, so it’s a Brimstone 1 (SAL).
IRST is not a visual feature… it has significant gameplay implications…
There are no semantics to quit. The original Brimstone 1 does not have a dual mode seeker head. SAL mode is not possible for Brimstone 1. The first version capable of SAL mode and the version selected to add to the game originally for Tornado GR.4 and now the Typhoons in game is Brimstone Dual Mode.
This is the definition of arguing semantics, you’re getting fixated on the term and not on what we actually have.
Tornado GR.4 and now the Typhoons in game is Brimstone Dual Mode.
Uh, cool, and it’s locked to SAL so by definition we do not have access to Dual Mode in WT and as such, calling it by anything else but Brimstone SAL is objectively incorrect. Hope this makes it easier to understand :)
? They were originally didn’t have the SAL mode but for Afghanistan they were modified to fit the rules of engagement so still are Brimstone 1 just the dual mode version
Im afraid im just clarifying for you exactly what we have in game. Brimstone Dual Mode locked to its SAL mode of operation. We do not have the baseline Brimstone 1 version in game as its not possible to have SAL guidance on that seeker head without the Dual Mode Upgrade.
Your opinion is entirely understandable. However for Brimstone to have a SAL mode in the first place, it can be nothing earlier than Brimstone Dual Mode. Which is spesifically the version we have in game and the version chosen by the developers.
SAL defines its mode of operation in game. “Dual Mode” is the base name of the version of Brimstone we have in game.
Is there any plans to give the Typhoon its historically accurate Brimstone 2? (can still be SAL) as no Typhoon ever equipped and used Brimstone 1s except maybe an RAF one, but as far as I am aware, the fitting of Brimstones onto Typhoon occured after Brimstone 2 entered service and so, have to assume they tested and fitted Brimstone 2s not Brimstone 1s
SAL requires a different seeker head. From this point, its a “dual mode” Brimstone and different from the baseline Brimstone 1 which does not have a SAL compatible seeker.
A suggestion has currently been passed for Brimstone 2. However we dont currently have any updates to report on that.
The German EF isn’t getting IRST because it wasn’t part of the service equipment and only tested
The Rafale gets 8 MICA and HMD even though it wasn’t part of the service equipment and only tested
In “name” only, clarify it next time, thanks.
yes the brimstones had there seekers upgraded to dual mode for Afghanistan but retain the same motor as Brimstone 1
It already has been numerous times and explained why it is locked to SAL mode and clearly defined as that.
Indeed. But they become Brimstone Dual Mode. Not just Brimstone 1. Baseline Brimstone 1s cannot use SAL mode.
yeah
You know PIRATE will never work like it does IRL in game. It offers limited to no advantage at all
Hopefully we will get the ability to guide AMRAAMs via an IR lock. That would give it quite decent value, especially in Sim
Fairly sure you made this exact same post (even the meme) a few days ago.
However yes thats correct, and the German EFT gets AIM-9M and Brimstone SAL on the same basis as the Rafale getting its HMD and MICA. Because they were possible.
Other future versions of both airframes with other features or weaponry remain possible.
We might get when as per usual the US and Russians have an IRST system that can do the same.