In the bug reports.
If anything EF2000 according to what can be found is overperforming by 2° and rafale underperforming by whopping 4°. If these charts are correct, i dunno. I dont have ingame flown at hand.
These graphs are far from accurate and taking them at face value is uh, interesting to say the least.
If you read what i wrote, you would notice that i dont know if they are right and that i dont have on hand STR and ITR of these planes handflown in game. Do you???
Yes.
Wouldve rathered they reverted the ahistorical buffs to the Rafale and kept PIRATE off the german EFT, but atleast if they go through with this, they couldnt be accused of selective application of their rules.
That being said, I still think this whole Rafale HMD + 8MICA and German EFT PIRATE situation is a can of worm gaijin should never have opened, and very much should be attempting to close, not doubling down on.
Other nations mains are going to start begging for all sorts of prototype equipment, test weapons, and export configs and are going to cite the Rafale and EFT getting said things as justification. Itd be less work for gaijin to just remove the stuff from the Rafale, remove the 9M from the EFT, state they werent operated in X nations service, and deal with the backlash.
The elimination of what makes tech trees and nations unique has always been one of the worst things that has been ongoing in this game over the years, and this certainly doesnt help.
yeah I see your point and that way the german Eurofighter could get the AMK to make it unique instead of calling the lack of the IRST a “feature”
(IK it was also only tested but pls give me something on my german EF)
He’s using min fuel instead of max fuel, which iirc is what the EFT’s numbers in thr bug report are for.
Even then tho, startshark has a disclaimer their charts may have issues and are HEAVILY WIP, and I’ve been told the delta ducks graphs particularly are wonky.
All partner nations trialled AMK, it just only was fitted to the EADS IPA7.
the german aircraft yes, if pilots flew it would be the only requirement germany could get a lot more aircrafts
So far I haven’t seen anybody prove its owned by WTD 61, what I have seen is Eurofighter themselves referring to it as an EADS aircraft operated on behalf of the consortium.
I’d be happy to change my view if someone finds something saying its operated or owned by the Luftwaffe, but at least initially all IPA airframes were owned by NETMA.
Given that and the flights were done by Eurofighter/Airbus pilots, it seems there’s no stronger claim to Germany than anyone else.
The numbers in bug report are tested at 100% fuel with missiles though
squadron number 98 is wtd61
Gaijin still doesn’t plan to fix Catcher M？
It bore the 98 squadron tag from the beginning, despite in at least the beginning explicitly being owned by NETMA or Eurofighter.
I believe the BAE aircraft is flagged with an RAF Sqn, its not owned by the RAF.
Either way, you’re asking for an IRST Germany had no part in developing or even financing and fitted a few times for evaluation, with no intent to standardise it, whilst gatekeeping an AMK kit financed by the consortium as a whole and flown by pilots from across the consortium.
My position remains unchanged, give Germany PIRATE, but when the time comes let all the nations have AMK. Otherwise, Germany’s aircraft should reflect their service jet, which is not 98 07.
There’s no source attached to that. Meanwhile here’s eurofighter explicitly referring to it as an EADS D Eurofighter.
https://www.eurofighter.com/multimedia/eads-d-ipa-7-with-heavy-weapon-load
As I said, I think my position is quite fair and well balanced, let you guys have this feature now which you have a dubious claim to, in exchange for our equally dubious claim. You’re never gonna get a dubious PIRATE with community support, and I’d be happy to support this, if you would stop gatekeeping.
cause the IPA 7 works with them, doesnt mean ownership
And either way, what u wanna do put an AMK eurofighter with german livery into every tree?
No, as Gaijin have said, skins are cosmetic only, it doesn’t necessarily reflect the standard of aircraft. So just take the model and apply a native skin.
This is the most fair option, and the option most people would support.
nah ipa7 is owned by NETMA. same for IPA3 but i remember reading that the 8 is allegedly Bundeswer property but idk about that
I think i’ve also seen IPA 8 being owned by WTD 61, when looking into IPA7. It is another thing supporting PIRATE for Germany.
As of 2018 though IPA8 was still referred to as being ‘with Airbus’ but based at Manching.
