Dude would not last a week with the ICE .
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Saying HMD/HMS isnt useful is an absolute cope take. It’s incredibly useful not having to move your aircraft to gain a lock allows to fire your missile from positions which put your target into a false sense of safety. It is an absolute must have even on aircraft with 9M. Its allows bricks like the tornado GR4 to pull off kills it otherwise would not be able to do.
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HMD It should look like this
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Its an opinion.
Pros to the HMD, can slew and lock things off boresight.
Cons at close ranges you want TWS or ACM mode and the HMD doesnt allow those modes.
I only have top tier experience in the Gripen.
There are far too many potential threats you dont see in HMD PD mode
And I can count on one hand when the HMD has been useful.
Have the Tornado F.3 its basically the same jet
Is the Typhoon going to be a brick?
I didnt say HMD was useless I said you cannot leverage it like the Su-27s can as we lack a high off boresite capability.
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If it is going to be anywhere close to realistic it is going to be the strongest jet we’ve ever seen
The brick was reference to the tornado gr4. You do realise you can use just standard HMS without having use to use to to slew the radar and just slew IR missiles and use TWS or ACM as normal. Also the 9M is capable of high off bore sight 😂 just because it don’t have TVC doesn’t mean it’s not HOB it’s got a very large look angle before launch
40° on the AIM-9M is not considered “high” off-boresight. Quick google search places the general limit for what is considered “HOBS” at “greater than 40°” tho Id suspect it would theoretically be more than that, since most, if not all missiles considered to be “HOBS capable” have a pre-launch gimble limit of 60° (R-73, MICA IR) or more (IRIS-T is up to 90°).
The first HOBS capable Sidewinder is the AIM-9X.
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I did not when i switch to the HMD it always only allows me to select HMD PD mode!
I assumed it was a limitation with the Gripen.
That will definitely change how useful it is 😆
HMS is always on for IR missiles you don’t need to switch modes or anything
Could of sworn R73 pre launch gimble limit before launch is 45 not 60
Well ideally we get an AIM-120 & AIM-9 Typhoon a solid few updates before next-gen IR missiles with newer versions of jets are added.
That or long-before they’re added to existing jets.
I want to spade these things using the more antiquated historical loadouts before said power creep.
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HMD doesnt allow for ACM or TWS??
HUH?
what game are you playing
You’re right, rechecked thr sheet and it is.
The default mode when you cycle through puts it in PD HD mode, When I try to change modes it selects TWS, HD PD or ACM but not through HMD.
Which is clearly my error.
i turn my radar off when i try to get close. in that state, you can select HMD ACM by pressing the “lock” button or go to regular BST ACM by pressing the ACM button
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What? For me ACM and HMD are under change within/beyond vr
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So Gripen comes with HPRF/MPRF/LPRF.
These waveforms are all available in all search or track modes.
In ACM the default and only predefined waveform is MPRF (pre-track) this is the same for HMD. Once you have gone from either ACM or HMD the PRF will be automatically managed, typically unless the target goes realllllly far away MPRF is going to be the only waveform used.
The only advantage ACM has over HMD is it is constantly trying to acquire a target, depending on the situation ahead of you this can be good or bad, an example would be it tracks the second it sees the target in the ACM box (good) or there being lots of targets that aren’t your intended target which end up getting tracked (bad).
HMD is less random in its tracking as typically the acquisition area is small and you decide what to track. This lowers the workload in cluttered environments and allows you to select targets off your centreline.
Anything that lowers pilot workload is a boon and you should take advantage of it.
This also reads across to any potential Typhoon we might see in the future.
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