bro i didnt ask how different they will be. I literally asked if the iris t werent to be added because of what i thought was too modern that the german and italian eurofighter also had a chance to get asraam. BUT NO you have to say “i am fed up you asking the same question”. I know that they are pretty much equal but literally i didnt ask if they are equal. What are you on about
like read into the questions before answering jesus
ok lemme explain it to you like you are a preschooler,
being equal means means that their choice of weaponry is just as good between each other as well
meaning iris-t and asraam are both just as good as the other.
If one of those 2 main armaments would beat the other drasticaly/ would be so much better. We would have told you a long time ago, this or that eurofighter is so much better BECAUSE it has access to drasticaly stronger missles.
But the fact that their performance as well as their weaponry is so similar and equal just with different strong points is exactly what makes all typhoons equivalent to each other.
Only exception being austrian typhoons, but we dont talk about those. They are the little brother nobody likes
I already get that long time ago that they are equal!
My question once again was, if gaijin decided to NOT add the iris t because they think its too op or like germany suffering, but give the britains asraam, americans aim9x, russian r73m and so on. IF THAT WERE TO HAPPEN could gaijin ALSO GIVE ASRAAM to the germans? I didnt ask the capabilities of the eurofighters, i know they are pretty much equal, I GAVE YOU A SITAUTION that could happen if gaijin does what they like to do and that is let nations suffer for a while. Okay you answered me already that its unlikely that they dont add the iris t with the asraam and aim9x. BUT I DIDNT ASK the same question as before. Before I asked which one is better (that was days ago).
Sorry for all the writing but i want to make things clear Shini
Thank you for reading at all of that
again iris-t equal to asraams, meaning they come together, gajin knows that as well, the whole enxt generation of IR missles is coming together because nations will complain else. Just like R-73 and AIM 9M came together in the end
AIM 9X, python 5, r73m (if i got that one right), IRIS-T, ASRAAM, AAM-5, all together are the next generations of missles. And basicaly introducing any of those without the other will lead to giant drama it wont happen, all or none
Its literaly common knowledge, those are matters discussed to death and gajin is aware of those
yeah and we literaly told you they are equal, which pretty much means as well they are coming together
there are some stupid questions that can be asked and you find them. Because you ask questions that have already been answered
I don’t want to detract the thread from being overall a primarily Eurofighter thread but I can def see the AIM-9X Block 1 coming before the other IIR missiles since to my understanding it has no LOAL, datalink, or IOG. All characteristics that normally apply to the other IIR missiles. AIM-9X Block 1 is a weird in-between current missiles and proper IIR missiles. That is not also to say that AIM-9X just overall would be worse than the other missiles in terms of manueverability and range.
I can assume that RVV-MD will be able to fly longer distances than aim-9x, iris-t, asraam, since they have a range of 20km, 25km, 18km, and RVV-MD 40km
I agree it is kind of a step down, unless Gaijin does what they did with AIM-9M and not specify a specific variant and just introduce AIM-9X as AIM-9X block 2.
I expect Python 4 missiles pretty soon now too, and do not look forward to their arrival.
asraam is more like 50km for long range shots.
I don’t know about this. Can I have the source?
The maximum I saw: 25 km
In theory it can reach 50km but that is a very optimistic scenario.
In real combat scenario it will probably reach 25-30km at best.
The maximum distance is indicated under the most optimistic conditions; this also applies to RVV-MD (40KM)
First modification of the R-73 flies at 20 km maximum.
It’s never been officially stated but its circulated a lot in UK military journals. Range is always stated officially as ‘in excess of 25km’ or ‘25km+’.
I expect in-game gaijin will just change things like the booster impulse and drag to match known values/estimates and we will end up with a missile that’s around RVV-MD level in range.
30 miles=48km
Thats why i also included combat scenario.
The flight range of the RVV-MD(40km) is indicated from official information from the Russian military museum “Park Patriot”
I think you would struggle to make it go 5km man
You understand that this distance is indicated under ideal conditions. Perhaps even somewhere in the stratosphere
Yes, there are doctrinal differences for level of classification. MBDA have always underestimated the range of their missiles and often by somewhere close to half.
For example the Meteor missile is officially listed as a 100km+ missile by SAAB, but the Japanese tender for Meteor suggested in excess of 300km.
This is why I say Gaijin will probably just take the figures and plug it into the code and see what the resultant range turns out as. ASRAAM has very low drag, whilst having a high booster volume too.
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It all depends on the launch altitude, the target altitude and many other parameters.
20km in very optimal conditions yes.