Great, I’ll bring the data from old forum.
RAFAEL, Diehl Defence, and HENSOLDT announce Teaming Agreement for SPICE 250 ER | Diehl Group
Diehl, RAFAEL and Hensoldt are apparently working together on a SPICE 250 ER for SEAD/DEAD, among other things. It’s a SPICE 250 with a turbojet engine giving it some 150km of range. RAFAEL announced this bomb-missile 2 years ago. However, Diehl has had agreements with RAFAEL over this thing for some time so they’d be license producing these in Germany
here is a spice 250(not ER) being advertised for the Eurofighter at ILA Berlin 2018
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.analyticsinsight.net%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2019%2F06%2FRafael_SPICE250-1024x768.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=05b13179c47a77f9660b26ffbf16dc0a7e4237d69efae945fabea82941a0b2e4&ipo=images
and here’s a spice 250 er, note the air intake on the bottom
due to its small size and it being quad “packed”, the eurofighter could carry a total of 24 of these, although 16 are more realistic(fuel tanks)
These are small bombs(250lbs total weight) but they’re IR, INS and GPS guided with 2 way datalink for man-in-the-loop capability
kind of makes them a direct competitor to MBDA’s SPEAR 3 missile which is smaller but less range and less weight and radar guidance instead of IR.
Will be interesting to see whether or not the Lw will FINALLY chose a new standoff weapon and if its going to be this.
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I know about EF didnt use HARM, so this could be alternative for HARM . . .
Because Lw Tornados will be retired in a day not far away.
the ECR is being developed and that is going to need some sort of ARM. it might get HARMs integrated as a “stopgap” measure because the Lw has stock of those but we’ll see. iirc 2025 or 2028 was the predicted year for it
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I found some interesting files, maybe 10+ years old sales brochuers.
Naval EF is really interesting.(never developed btw)
did gaijin blocked uploading pdf files? I cannot upload my pdf files.
I think they placed a cap on it, might be worth putting it in a public folder and then sending that link.
here it is
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Germany just ordered 969 AIM-120C-8, i am not sure if those are newer version or which ones were used before since most articles i find just refer to AMRAAMS in general
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Why would they order so many AMRAAM’s when they could order more meteors???
the german military works in mysterious ways
Best guess either A) they are a lot cheaper than Meteor (about half the price), and so just better to use for Training/most situations or B) they are giving them to Ukraine
Because if UK Ben Wallace is to be believed, US is shafting European F-35s by delaying and overcharging for Meteor integration on F-35s. So you’ll need AMRAAMs in the interim.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/844661456048881664/1132433697463865354/2021.png
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ah you just beat me to it, with better explanation, yeah the f35 aint compatible yet and so they propably are stocking up for them as well
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Thats super scummy, but not unexpected from the US or its defence sector
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Ah, America is always a bit salty about the Meteor being better than AMRAAM
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The funniest part about it is the Americans had a meteor equivalent in the works to replace the AIM-54, but killed it back in 1992 becausr of their good ol’
“nobody will ever catch up to our technological genius, and so why pay more for better?” Mentality…
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Haha
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Americans really are their own worst enemy
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Speaking of Meteor, someone should ought to create a Meteor missile thread. It seems there’s an upgraded Meteor now. Spiral 1.1?
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