you’re forgetting about the length… the booster section is almost as long as the entire asraam lmao
I’m going to make a big fat innacurate guess.
Considering the size of it compared to regular iris-t, and considering iris-t is around 87 kg, i’m going to bet around 120-130 kg
its 140kg
Not like the ASRAAM is the size limit on the Eurofighter…
The meteor is longer than the SLM and it fits fine on the second from wingtip pylon
Maybe the SLM is too large/heavy for wingtip rail carriage, but maybe not (yes i nknow its not wingtip, i just dont have a great word for easily describing the position)
It doesn’t work like that.
Indeed an IR seeker dome is really influence by temperature. And if your missile goes at mach 4 or more , then due to air friction , the ir some really is going to heat up and become unusable. That’s one of the reason there no METEOR IR.
The IRIS-T SLM is around 130kg iirc and is more modern than the MICA.
For a fair comparaison you have the MICA NG which is 112kg and also have 40km when ground launched.
That’s also mean the missile cannot be used LOBL so the main IRIS-T use (dogfigth or very close encounter), the missile cannot lock a target by itself (or has to drop the ballistic cap and then if not fired the missile has heavelly reduced range).
I don’t think anybody is interested by a capped IR missile on an airplane since you cannot shoot it LOBL.
If you really wanna shoot SAM missile from aircraft , go the US way and test SM-6 on F-18. Eu equivalent would be equipping an ASTER 15/30 on the centerline of a Rafale or Eurofigter.
But why do that when you radar only see 150/200km away and the Meteor is already good for this kind of range.
damn it 10kg short X)
sidenote : sticking a meteor to an Aster 30 booster would be pretty sick ngl
SLM is lighter than an amraam and a bit shorter.
but thats kinda also why i said it’d probably be integrated as an MRAAM instead of an SRAAM replacement and then be used instead of amraams in some cases.
in regards to using an aster on an air platform…
these long range missiles have a problem which is that they basically have to fly outside the atmosphere for these long ranges as they’re not powered for long (advantage of meteor) so while they can reach super long ranges, they’re practically useless against anything that moves even a bit outside of the predicted area because they cannot maneuver at those high altitudes. so there’s kind of a useful maximum range on missiles, until they increase the fuel amount on meteor i guess lmao
Aster’s max alt is stated to be 20km, far within atmosphere limits, and while it has to go ballistic for long range shots (60-120 km) its apogee would still be inside troposphere, maybe stratosphere at max
as for manoeuverability, it’s still a hit to kill with lateral thrusters, so it can technically still maneuver in a complete void, although for a limited amount of time
the biggest problem with integrating an aster on an air platform would be the weight (450kg, phoenix equivalent) and the difference of diameter between the booster (380mm) and the terminal dart (180mm).
There’s also the risk of the missile overspeeding if air launched, since it can reach M4.5 from a stand still in 3.5s, it means it could probably go M5.5-M6.0 if launched high at mach 2, and i don’t know if it can withstand it or not
For Germany, Swiss subtree would be great with F18, Mirage Etc?
I have a question: Regarding the CAPTOR-C radar, the only info I found about its range was 185km against targets with a RCS of 2.5m^2. I however have seen people claim that this radar is comparable with the Zhuk-M of the Mig29SMT which has noticeably less than that.
Are there any good public sources to read up on that?
I think there was a pretty good source shared here on the forum about it didnt safe it unfortunatly
sounds like bullshit
zhuk-m is an older, smaller radar with less power
Eurofighter Technology and Performance : Sensors (archive.org)
The CAPTOR-M radar – Defense Archives
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Thanks and yes, I thought that as well when I read it. The only russian fighter carried radar I know of which starts to be comparable is the one on later modifications of the SU-30.
Though when it comes to War Thunder, its going to be funny since I am pretty sure that no aircraft in the game and which would come at the same time with the exception of the Rafale can get far enough to be undetected on a typical 128x128km map and the gimbal of the radar will basically allow it to light up the entire side of the enemy team’s map.
that wont get any closer than a SH, EF or Gripen. Especially not with weapons on it (just like the others)
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128*128km map will be too small when weapons sutch as the PL-15/METEOR/AIM-260/R-37M will be in the game.
I hope they reduce the team size by that point
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im not really worried about R-37M but meteor and aim-260 will definitely need bigger maps
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It’s a AIM-54 on steroid , it could be dangerous still.
If you’re focused then it should be alright but still a 60kg warhead exploding near you will be dangerous.
It depends on how will mutltipath be implemeted by then.
And also if they’ll model its loft into the stratosphere to achieve its range and so the fact that it cannot maneuvers when its so high.
it is just a slightly upscaled phoenix yes. so it has the same restrictions. those claimed ranges are at max alitude and speed, probably from a mig 31. you’re never achieving that
so in a fight between an EF with Meteor and a su-35 with an AA-13 its not gonna end well for the flanker.
and tbh i think the meteor might even get to the flanker faster
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those wont be coming anytime soon imo. The current fox 3’s being added are being nutered hard already, if we cant even add AIM-120A’s with MPRF and reduced smoke motor, there’s no chance were seeing a properly modelled meteor anytime soon.
R-37M is the primary danger to ukrainian pilots in the skies over ukraine according to them, downplaying its capabilities is silly.
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entirely different scenario. Russian jets have no contest aside from SAMs. they can approach from far away, at high altitude and speed. that is not possible in war thunder.
they’ve also stated that its mostly soft kills
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