AIM-7F/M don’t use CW illuminators to begin with, they’re backward compatible, but that’s not their primary method.
Or trusting the americans
7F should require CW illuminator since it doesn’t have monopulse seeker
Ok, I stand corrected then
why did the Germans upgrade the F4F?
they originally planned to use the fighter from their multinational program but the Tornado ADV prototype ended up… bad
so they started another Multinational program
so what are we gonna do now? we don’t have any budget left for a new fighter now and the ADV is going to be a disaster which they didn’t want to invest in
now because it’s temporary why not just keep the Phantoms until the next Multinational fighter is ready and we can invest more into it so it actually does succeed this time
then the GDR collapsed and the Luftwaffe chose MiG-29G and F4F-ICE as their fighters until the EF2000 was ready
buying a whole new weapon system for 10? maybe 20 years isn’t worth it, especially considering the Bundeswehr’s immense burocratic barriers which slow down how quickly entirely new material can be recived (see G95, trials started in 2016 and are just about to finish) but do not necessarily apply to modification programs
The AIM-7F supports both CW and HPRF guidance
also the hole GDR collapse and following reintegration kinda took up a lot of funds, which naturally came from the Bundeswehr since they got the GDR inventory and troops, were limited in size anyways and their primary enemy was in the process of self destructing.
Point being, no funds for a temporary solution
no funds, no more reason for a new Jet now and a new one (EF2000) was already in the making too
kind of similar to the JA37D which was a temporary solution while the sweds were waiting for the Gripen to arrive
Germany often tends to favor the US-made. idk why.
And end of cold war era - Germany dosen’t have enough money for Defence… this would be reason for they prefer things that have already been made and used, and prefer to improve existing components and use them, insted of develope new components wich have risks to fail.(delivery delay, project failure, underperforming…etc.)
And maybe tries about benefit its own industry wich already manufacturing APG-65GY…
In terms of Aircraft, its mostly because the German military aeronautical industry is on crutches
I’d love to see it inn-game one of my favorite’s
They had some intresting desings though for example the MBB Lampyridae wich was shut down because of US meddling
Trust me I know, between the GlowWorm and the Mako, they had some very interesting designs, but none ever came to fruition/where outright cancled before the majority of German aviation was swallowed into AirBus
Argentine F-16s? Since Argentina is already the de facto subtree of Germany in ground, might as well be in air as well. And Argentina is getting deliveries of refurbished F-16 MLU (with AMRAAM) this year.
I thought at one point I came across a picture of a Eurofighter with 6 AMRAAM fitted at once (2 on the wing pylons). I thought this would be the best place to ask.
If anyone has it, (or can at least confirm/deny), I would greatly appreciate it.
Cheers, this is one for the collection.
I should have specified I thought there was one with it on the innermost wing-pylon (between the fuselage and fuel tanks).
Either way thanks very much.
hmm thats not integrated afaik
only the outer wing pylon supports a2a missiles currently for a maximum load of 8 missiles, 2 ir + 6 rf or 4 ir + 4 rf
Might’ve been shown on a DA airframe or static, more likely I am misremembering.
With regards to this picture is the dual pylon actually integrated do you know?

afaik no
though its the same with the static stuff, you can mount it to the aircraft and the electronics would work but there’s no integration with the software or fcs
FCS particularly I can imagine will have a meltdown considering how sensitive it is.
Thanks.
