I wonder the same thing, almost all Chilean planes from before the 2000s used powerful cluster bombs made by Cardoen here in Chile
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Based on performance, either 7.0 or 7.3. Although a bit slower than most fighters at the BR, it looks like its climb rate (and probably low-speed acceleration) is above average. It would still be used as an attack bomber though. It’s similar to that Sweedish attacker that is seen at these BR brackets, forgot the name
If you consider the A2A missiles though, that’s getting into A-10 and Su-25 grounds. And I wouldn’t play it with much enthusiasm if that is the case.
I was thinking of something like the BR 9.0 since it is similar in speed to the Mig-15 of the BR 8.3, only the A-36 Toquí is much better in almost every way, the only advantage of the Mig-15 would be that it has a little more in maximum speed, but the Toquí beats it by far in weapons, fuel and rate of climb are almost equal. the Mig-15 reaches 1015 km/h while the Toquí 834 km/h is not an abysmal difference either.
Here is a comparison table:
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I still think 830 km/h is too slow for 9.0 or anything over 8.0 in general. Again, if you want it to be something like the A-10 or Su-25 then yes, but then the performance of the plane itself wont be anything competitive against enemy aircraft except the A-10s and Su-25s
tbh this aircraft could be good in game at like 9.0-8.7 however the thing that would kill it if added would be the magic 2s, those missiles single handedly would make the plane +10.7, since idk if it can carry flares, if the plane is only added with like shaf 2s then it would be good at like 9.0-8.7 magic2s would hurt it more than help it in this scenario
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Some photos I took of the T-36 Halcón (training version of the A-36 Toquí) in the Chilean aeronautical museum where you can see its details and its characteristic insignia, aesthetically it is practically identical to the A-36 Toquí so the images They can give a lot of information.
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So does anybody have info on whether the Toqui can carry flares?
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It does not seem like the aircraft was equiped with flares, it was retired recently so maybe it was given flares at the very end, i’m not sure
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That’s unfortunate. But also kind of expected.
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No countermeasures were mounted, in the books and magazines that I have read they are not mentioned, the improvements are those that I described in the suggestion.
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The only air-to-air missiles that were actually used were the Shafrir II, the Matra Magic I believe were never used in Chile, only Israeli and American material was used. The photo that you see where there is matra magic must be of another plane that was presented at FIDA in those years, although it is curious that it is next to cluster bombs manufactured in Chile, I would like to know which plane was the one that was next to it of the A-36 Toquí, it could be a Chilean Mirage 50, but I repeat, I have not seen any photo of any Chilean fighter that uses Matra Magic
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based on the shadow i see in the bottom right of the image it seems the magic missile belongs to a mirage 2000 that maybe was parked on the side of the a36, also i remember seeing somewhere that the a36 could use either a single 30mm defa or 2 12.7mm M3 machine guns
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Although the pod was received with the 12.7 mm machine guns, it was not used in service as explained here, the one that was used but rarely was the 7.62 mm although probably for training due to the low caliber, also do not add that pod because I considered it too weak compared to the 30mm, I don’t think anyone would prefer the 7.62mm pod in the game
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A small but mighty aircraft, and the Shafrir 2 is quite the interesting addition! +1
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I just realized that it also has the Chilean RWR Caiquén II that also had the Chilean Hawker Hunter installed, I was looking at images of the cockpit and you can see the RWR, it is also logical since it has an antenna on the top of the tail, so it is an extra addition to the plane. The Spanish/Chilean version of the Alpha Jet hahaha
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Kind of, but quite a bit slower, less ammo, and without CMs. Would likely sit lower in BR even with the addition of AAMs, as compared to soemthing like the Sa’ar, it’s just a wee bit worse. Great 8.7ish aircraft if you ask me.
But the French Alpha Jet E has no air-to-air missiles, no countermeasures, no telemetric radar or RWR and is 8.7, whereas the Chilean A-36 Toquí has all (except for countermeasures) that only sacrificing some top speed, I think it could even be 9.0
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Ah right, forgot about the fr*nch one lol
Did the Toqui have an RWR? Was it the Caiquén-II? Because of the strange Aneta on the tip of the vertical stabilizer?
It is possible, although I cannot confirm it 100% yet; I have not been able to find any documents on the subject.