EldE 98: Missile Trolley

xD please do share if you can find it

but yeah you have a point but in this case it says that it has an acquisition range compatible with its full kinematic range, to me that just reads it can see far

I will, but it was something in lines of “providing fast update rate allowing for precise target location” blah blah blah, ending at 1.5s target update rate, so 40 rpm,

Do you mean 0.667 Hz?

I dont think Hz can be used in this scenario

i mean saying rpm is more normal but its not that roundabout compared to what you are suggesting,

at least in my opinion

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no you can

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I guess i did not make it clear, the 1.5 was in a later part with technical data. There was a ton of blabbering about how good the radar is.

ah fair

What i meant Hz is not usually used for radar rotation, but ok.

thats true but you can still use it :p, would also be very roundabout

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seems legit tbh

question is, how will that 12km translate in game, especially against helicopters

hopefully it doesn’t suffer share the fate of manpad’s IR seeker

keep in mind that the SLS is the same missle as the air launched, which has 25km kinematic range, so you should even be able to lock vehicles from outside of its ground launched kinematic range

so even helis should be able to be locked from 12 km away

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i don’t exactly know how IR signatures are modelled for helis, but if i take a Lynx for example, which is the worst case, with a mistral as reference :

Mistral 1 :

  • all aspect lock => 6km
  • lock against a lynx in clear weather in game is usually 1.5km (a quarter of the normal range)

if the lock reduction proportional for a seeker with quadruple the range (25km), it still means you could only lock a lynx at 6.25km (25 * 1/4)

Speculation of course, best to wait dev server at this point i suppose

Hopefully, if the US gets the SLAMRAAM, that will at least give them 25km from what I am reading. Between 120s and 9xs, should be fiarly viable.

Judging by this devblog I can’t see them adding anything with more than 20km range.
They could have chosen the NOMADS for Sweden and artificially nerfed the range (edit: might not even need a nerf, most sources claim about 20km range) to match that of the Pantsir, if they really don’t want to give us more range, but no, they have to add another 10-12km range SAM instead.

Edit: nevermind, the NOMADS would be 10-12km as well, the ranges I found were based on air launched missiles for some reason

That is going to invite a fair bit of (rightfully so) backlash if they do not give something equal to the Pantsir for someone. The annoucement of this didnt even go well. But theres also the issue of what nations have. In terms of missile-based AA capabilties, I don’t imagine nations like the US have much since multi-unit was the preference. The SLAMRAAM is a viable option and 25km to 40km was what it could do.

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I just realised that no like the other 2 devblogs this devblog has no video, sadly .i think a video of a launch would have cleared many questions or discussions, also it would have shown how the vehicle drives

since the IRIS-T isnt a pure IR missle, but more a thermal cam, it should be able to lock from very far away still

NOMADS uses IRIS-T as well how would those have 20km range, or do the 9X missles really have 8km extra range on the IRIS-T’s ?

As far as I know most nations don’t really have anything between 12km and 30km range.
Sky Sabre (UK) has 40km+ range
SLAMRAAM has ground launched Sidewinders for shorter ranges, but carries only two of them, the rest are ground launched AMRAAMS with 25-40km range
Type 03 Chu-SAM (Japan), if it even is capable of launching without a separate radar, has 50km+ range
QRSAM (India) has 30km range
Akash (India) has 25-30km range
Aster SAMs (France/Italy)have 30km range and like the Chu-SAM might require a separate radar
Germany apparently only has a couple IRIS-T SLM launchers on trucks, but those would be 40km range as well
SPYDER AIO and SR could be options with 15km range, but might not match the Pantsir

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