I think we should try to push for the Alpha Jet TH to be changed to the Phase 2- currently it sports a 1.6 BR increase (5 whole steps) with only the lowest performance IR AAMs to show for it. Move it any lower and it might clap flareless jets. But at the same time, its barely below the like of the AMX Ghibli or Super Etendard which feature notably superior guided ordinance, more countermeasures, and similar class AAMs.
If gaijin changed the Alpha Jet TH to the Phase 2, we could at least get a nicer cockpit & perhaps a pair of mavericks to show for the higher BR.
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If anyone has information regarding the SNECMA Turbomeca Larzac 04-C20 or C-6 (MOD. 70) / ( MOD. 80), I would be really grateful to have more on these. We are currently collecting sources as it is possible that Thailand’s Alpha Jets also have more powerful engines (C20).
Edit: We found more, report is up; Community Bug Reporting System
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Do you have any info on the m39 gun pod trialed on thai alpha jets? I wonder if they can swap out of bk27 for the pontiac m39 sometime…
Not at the moment, we focus on getting the Engines fixed, as well as F-5T. I am not even sure if there is anything available online regarding the Pod; found it only mentioned in an article iirc.
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Update; Official Royal Thai Air Force facebook account posted a picture with an Alpha Jet TH armed with AIM-9M - RTAF Lieutenant
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Ngl we don’t need another subsonic attacker with IRCCM in the game, especially with it having substantially less CMs then the other ones it wouldn’t particularly be enjoyable. I’d much rather get any of the other RTAF variants we’re still waiting on.
This would actually make for a pretty good premium
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While I’d say +1, I shall agree with the point that such subsonic attacker is not going to be well balanced with its IR missiles (AIM-9M). It will be atrocious to use it in Air battles as it would be at very least 11.7. It is already horrible to play Alpha Jet TH Phase 1 with its AIM-9P-4s as, for some reason, Gaijin thinks those half-L half-P Sidewinders are enough to justify its BR, constantly fighting objectively better aircrafts even at the same BR (hello late MiG-21s and F-5s) and the neverlasting horde of premuim MiG-23MLs w/ their SARH missiles.
So yeah, I don’t want this thing facing early F-16s and F/A-18s. Maybe once Thais manage to fit some sort of guided A2G ordnance (like AGM-65s or 500lb GBUs) it is reasonable to have it in the game, because right now it is straight up another overtiered Alpha Jet for Air battles and a copypaste of already existing ones for Ground battles.
I think there was some limited mention of AGM-65D, but no photos or anything more specific that I’d know of. If there’s some more substantial evidence for those then that could make it a good choice for another addition
In the recent Dev server its been corrected to the C20 engines
waiter waiter, 350 more air to air kills in the TH plz
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Why do the French and German ones not get the C-20?
There literally is a leaflet listing the C-20 and two serial numbers for left / right engine in the cockpit lol
i am assuming its an “early” version of the alphajet. Thailand brought the ex-german ones after the upgraded engines where fitted and thus cant have anything else. Gaijin wont add the C-20 to the A or E in the same way they wont upgrade the GR,1 Tornado in the british tree.
Hopefully we get an analogue of the TH in the german tree with 9Ls instead of P-4.
And Egyptian Alpha Jet E with magics and countermeasures (and the C-20 engines) would go hard.
And Egyptian Alpha Jet E with magics and countermeasures (and the C-20 engines) would go hard.
Except for the fact that there are Alpha-Jet E upgrades that the French actually used in the form of the NGAE and Lancier programs and that’s not discounting the Belgian Alpha Jet 1B which like their French counterparts had an upgrade program of it’s own or even Nigerian Alpha Jet E’s that are modified to use Russian secondary ordinances
Oh yeah Egyptian Alpha Jets using Magics and upgraded engines only apply to the MS2 upgrade, the MS1 has no capability to use any AAM’s
Are you sure that the MS2 has countermeasures? I’d like it to have countermeasures if and when it is added into the game but i cannot find any images of it carrying countermeasures.
Yea that’s that I thought as well, very sad
If only they added these countermeasure pods to the F-5TH Super Tigris… it would make it decently viable at top tier… sigh 😕 😞