Does usa have good and playable top tiers?

  • The hull armor of the Abrams is also massively lacking
  • The turret ring of the Abrams is also incorrect in terms of protection and being to exposed
  • The turret front of the Abrams is based on an export version that is not as strong as the domestic package (a similar scenario to the TVM max stuff)
  • The multi-hit capability is also similarly bad in the Abrams
  • The Abrams is lacking its spall liners entirely
  • The turret ring (and its armor) is also not volumetric

The only things that I can’t say with 100% certainty are similar is the random armor holes and acceleration, but purely due to a lack of bug reports on them.

An armor proposal was made → the accounting office says the army plans to implement the weight-saving measures with additional armor simultaneously → testing on DU hulls done throughout this time → in FY2004/2005 a new armor package was budgeted → in 2006 the limit on DU hulls was removed and the first of the new armor packages were produced.

Therefore, yes, you need to prove that the upgraded armor did not happen, because all evidence points to it being implemented.

The Leclerc and Challenger’s armor is roughly equal to that of the Abrams, but yeah the Type 10, Ariete, and Merkava have worse armor protection (although the Type 10 at least has a reload nearly twice as fast as a T-90 - without having to get Max Reload + Max Leadership + Expert + Ace).

dont tell him about funny gun mask, which can be penned with 30MM APDS and destroy even engine

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Abrams isn’t horrible, but when the entire enemy team has objectively better tanks, the problem isn’t skill.

My K/D in Abrams is far worse than in T 80 U, and I had no idea what I was even doing when I got first got T 80 U.

You can change ‘‘Abrams’’ to any other MBT which isn’t the Strv 122/2A7 in that sentence and nothing changes.

Observe:

‘‘T-80BVM isn’t horrible, but when the entire enemy team has objectively better tanks, the probelm isn’t skill’’

‘‘Type 10 isn’t horrible, but when the entire enemy team has objectively better tanks, the probelm isn’t skill’’

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American top tier tanks are generally decent. I wouldn’t say they are on the level of a 2A7(or one of the spinoff variants), or a BVM. But, regardless, they are good tanks, with good reload times. The only problem is that the teams suck. You have a bunch of mindless players with NO skill that die after bum rushing. So, If you don’t want to be frustrated with terrible teams every match, don’t play TT america. If you like decently mobile and fun tanks, go ahead and play it. American top tier is only limited by the crappy players.

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T-80BVM and Type 10 are simply better than Abrams.

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As an Abrams player, I can say for certainty that other than the turret ring bug (completely defeats the purpose of hull down), tusk doing absolutely nothing and the incorrect ammo (should be m829a3 even a4) it’s a solid tank. It’s quick and has a good reverse. If those fixes were made, it’d be the best tank in the game. IMO german tanks are stupid for being able to operate with 1 crew.

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bro. 💀
please actually go and play top tier before spouting bs

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I’d advise you not to play top tier

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US main claiming everything else is better than an M1 Abrams, even though they’ve got ZERO experience playing any other top-tier MBT including those two you just mentioned.

I’d take a basic M1A1 over the T-80BVM any day, the M1A1’s superior all around mobility, gun handling, survivability and much better firepower make it infinitely better suited to the meta for me.
Unfortunately, the US players at high tier make it impossible to enjoy playing these machines.

And I’m afraid to say, but your stat card showing you’ve only got a (Squadron) M1A1 AIM without any viable back-up vehicles for a lineup, a 26% winrate and a 0.8 K/D shows me you’re one of those players that’s responsible for ruining the US top-tier experience for everyone else.
And then you lack any self-awareness and complain about the tank being inferior?

afbeelding

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Protection analysis exists. It’s not perfect, but it exists. The difference between them is minor.


until this bug gets fixed not really

Top tier will get you nothing but suffering. There’s too many one death leavers.

Your better bet is 10.3.

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Huh? what US main? I mainly play T 80 U at toptier.

no they are utter garbage.

do yourself a favor, and block necrons. He hates the entire u.s tree and has admitted so for the last 6+ years. " I’d take a basic M1A1 over the T-80BVM" is all the proof you need.

why would you need to reverse when all you need to do is hold W to win.

I don’t think someone who consistently says that US vehicles are good, hates the US tree. Especially when they admit that stuff should be fixed.

Not in air.

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he said top tier ground.

He consistently mocks people and claims US vehicles are good. There is a difference between someone who makes a claim versus someone who plays.

The M1 chassis in game has had issues since forever, same as the Challenger, same as the Leclerc, same as the ZTZ99A, same as the T90M. The only difference being that the chassis was designed years ago (in the same year that they did the special event for it in April Fools) and it was never modified and fixed to the standard, even after years of reports, complaints, and blatant evidence that the machine was not performing as it should.

And this after being sold a premium prototype that “was never going to see the light of day” (XM1), after “we’ll never make a top tier premium” (M1A1 Clickbait), “the model is good” (every single M1A1 showed a fuel tank where the radiator, i.e. air filters, were located) and multiple other promises for bug fixes that should have been implemented.

I’d love to think that the tank fixes would encourage people to be tryhards and bring more tanks to top tier, but I can’t promise that. Nevertheless, I’m very aware of the attitude I’ve caught from some other players on this forum regarding the information presented, and it’s not favorable at all.

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