So what do you think they reinforced the M1A2 SEPv3s hull with?
This is the closest you will probably see of anything literally says there is DU in the hull armor. All manuals that would support what you are asking for are classified and will not be unclassified untill 2029 at the earliest. For the SEP v3 fielding is not planned to end untill 2028.
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To be honest, for me Wikipedia is a better source than what you write. You’re like a broken ChatGPT that thinks it’s never wrong. I have found out more than once that your level of knowledge is disproportionately low to your ego. But your calling F-14 or F-15 “3.8 Gen” fighters clearly showed this to me. No one has ever heard of “3.8” generation of aircraft. The moment you disagree with someone and you get irritated, you start to offend. Just like you did with @Dinfire saying that his brain is probably rotten from recording tiktoks. I could argue with you if you could show me a document that says exactly that it was a center of mass test. But I don’t want to talk to you.
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Men, do you think a countries that share a border with russia will be gifted with a DU hull ?.
None of the M1s have a hull that weighs anywhere close to 41 tons.
I like how he toes the Gaijin line:
SUB-1536 obviously means it is turrets when they say turrets are “as needed” but only means they CAN put it in hulls when they say hulls are “as needed.” Clowns don’t realize the obsolete version they use to make their contradicting argument no longer helps them, and that “as needed” must mean it is in both turrets AND hulls.
Which, I mean, they never specified which M1 turrets specifically have DU. Are you sure DU is in production turrets, Gaijin? If they didn’t cherry pick an obsolete version of SUB-1536, they might have an argument. But they chose a version of SUB-1536 that wouldn’t support their claims in a matter of months when the amended version rolled out.
“NOT PROOF IN HULLS! BUT SOMEHOW PROOF IN TURRETS! GAIJIN DEVS SMART!”
Okay. We’ll just ignore every other time they’ve been wrong about the Abrams and many other things.
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Unfortunately, it has been necessary. As Russian mains still come in saying something that has been disproven over and over again, and need to be shown these things over and over again. Yet they get hung up by a lack of colored pictures sometimes, or struggle to agree with Gaijin’s flawed logic of “as needed” must mean there are DU in turrets (unspecified turrets mind you) but “as needed” only means they MIGHT have put DU in hulls…despite being attached to a document that shows them having put DU in hulls and where it would be. “As needed” means it is in hulls too, fam. Cope.
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The U.S will not gift DU armor to countries that shares borders with the U.S.
Considering they sent unmodified SEPV3s to Poland on order, not DU. I don’t think the SEPV3’s next generation armor package uses any DU at all.
Ukraine’s M1’s don’t have DU. They have an export armor package.
A good way to say “I don’t care for accurate information, I only want gratification from improving my pixel tank”.
Now that you mention it, yeah seems a bit high. I spit out a random number but Gaijin explained in their post that the weight had not changed from M1A2 → SEPV2.
As needed doesn’t mean anything. It means they could use them “as needed”, but may not have. You continuously push this point as if there isn’t a mountain of evidence for the turret DU, and less than a mole hill for the hull.
Who? What does it matter if some random person is shouting you’re wrong from the rooftops. The Gaijin devs aren’t listening to the forum, they listen to good sources.
I think you made a typo.
That is very clearly just you misrepresenting what Gaijin was saying
Lmao.
It’s funny you bring that up. Because the article literally talks about how the U.S was having issues sending Ukraine tanks because of how long it takes to remove the DU armor and replace it with tungsten. It say the U.S plans to start using 2006 and earlier M1 hull to help speed up the process because those hull do not have the DU armor speeding up the production process for export abrams.
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That is not a typo. The U.S policy will not even allow the U.S to give Canada tanks with DU armor.
Just to put things into perspective… Here is a preview of one of the documents I’ve collected… I’m sorting and notating about 20+ others in preparation…
General Dynamics Document Images
I also have a document on the backpack armor array variants that was designed for the hull upgrade… But, it’s part of a larger symposium/conference document, and I haven’t been able to find that publicly on the archive sites I’ve been using, so I may contact my FOIA person and see if I can make sure it’s cleared. Those arrays used varying layers of steel, glass-reinforced polycarbonate, kevlar, Silicon-Carbide / Titanium-Borate tiles, and epoxy resin.
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Where did you here Ukraine is getting SEPv3 are you dumb?
He said nothing about Ukraine getting sepv3 he was talking about Poland getting them are you blind
All the tanks that go to Ukraine go though Poland.
And he was talking about Polish order to buy sepv3
We sent tanks with DU armor to Saudi Arabia, I see no reason we couldn’t send them to Canada.
That’s not what I said, I said Poland bought SEPV3s.
Guys, enough with the arguing semantics and personal attacks… Any further will not be tolerated…
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Okay, I’m on the same page as you. Poland has submitted a request to have 250 M1A2 sepv3 built for them along with 88 recovery vehicles and etc. If they approved to be built, because of US policy they would have to be built without DU armor.