20mm Minengeschoss damage be like:
Now I do suppose that you are not deliberately selling a faulty & incomplete product & that you will correct this as soon as possible, right gaijin?:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/LhtTXwUWXnzB
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/CCXy0eVxZ765
Didn’t Z-1 remain incomplete prototype? I thought by current Gaijin’s standards such planes get removed, not returned. Can I have Re.2006 btw? 😐
“You get a 109 and you get a 109, everyone gets a 109! (or a sherman or a mustang or a…)”
Its almost as if the faction countries don’t matter and the tech trees are just an excuse to pad out the grind or something.
AH, nice to see the guardian of historic based recreation/accuracy for German vehicles still active! 🫡
Again; it’s odd how the P-47, despite being one of the most copy-and-pasted vehicles in the game…didn’t get something like this on it’s first flight anniversary back on May 6th.
Why is the soviet 190 so expensive. You currently have the milan for sale cheaper than that!!!
D-9 a plane without bombs 7420 GE and BR 5.0.
Yak 9K mega op broken plane free and BR 4.7.
ZERO sense!!!
Sad that Romanian Bf.109G-2 in German TT didn’t come back for the anniversary.
Sadly i dont this the romanian vehicles are going to be back in the german TT. The Hungarian G2 in the italian TY has the Romanian skin on it in game tho.
i hoped for D-13 to be removed completly from shop.
wheres the british captured planes? oh yeah were the only major tree without any captured premiums.
He 111 Zwilling when?
Also, no discout for the Fw 190 A-5/U14?
I would highly appreciate if you as CM can give some feedback to the marketing guys within gaijin:
The discounts they offer are nice - but except the 3.0 JP 109 (which was several times “for free” in the war bond shop) the products they offer are a not really attractive for every “somehow” experienced Air RB player:
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Since June 2024 the famous Minengeschoss rounds got severly nerfed by gaijin (see this post). Either intended or by accident the shells got a range nerf as they have implemented the historically accurate SD (self-destruction) mechanic not as it would be correct based on time (3 seconds) but based on travelled distance which severely limits the range as any shells fired at very high speed will explode at 800-850 meters as the velocity of the carrier plane will be added to the shell muzzle velocity and subsequently the shells explode too early.
Several bug reports were submitted, but either ignored or closed despite a publicly available primary source (like in this report) were attached.
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The Minengeschoss/Mineshells are afaik the only shells which were not revised by your Real Shatter iteratations RS 2.0 & 3.0. The rounds were before your ballistic update and Real Shatter amongst the most lethal 20 mm rounds.
Currently they are (based on countless player complains spread over dozens of threads and hundreds of posts) the weakest 20 mm shells in the game - whilst one of the weakest cannons of WW 2, the 20 mm ShVak, became out of nowhere a deadly one-tap killer with sniper abilities.
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The BRs of the 109s and 190s in Air RB remained over the years more or less stable whilst competitors saw massive BR decreases (like F4U-4 and I-185 from 5.0 to 4.3) or massive armament buffs (like the mentioned 20mm ShVak) whilst their BRs were not increased.
So if you add FM nerfs (like Fw 190 A-5) or artificial engine overheating (like 190 A/F models) there are no real reasons to buy any of these planes.
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You don’t have to trust me - just invest 10 minutes and use the search function (“MG 151/20” and “109 & 190s”) to get an unfiltered community feedback regarding Mineshells and Bf 109s & Fw 190s.
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There are still a lot of planes with rather high production numbers (like the Fw 190 A-9 with the up to 2.200 hp BMW 801 S ~ 900 built) missing in the German TT whilst implemented aircraft lack historical armament options - like the famous 190 A-8 R/2 “Sturmbock” with 2 outer wing Mk 108s as replacement for 2 MG 151/20.
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Imho you miss a hell of business opportunities if you keep 109s and 190s at their current BRs and don’t “de-nerf” the MG 151/20 or 190 Flight Models.
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In addition: Germany lacks BR 3.7 Rank III versions of the 109 & 190 for the Air RB. So if you would offer a 1941 109 F-2 with the Galland modification (replacing MG 17s with MG 131s) and add the 1942 Fw 190 A-3 you could close this gap (109s 3.3-4.0 and 190s 3.0-4.0) rather easy.
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I would be happy to buy a 190 A-9 at a BR of 4.7 for up to 40€ with the R/2 modification even without an airspawn - but not with the current FM, overheating nerf and MG 151/20 nerf.
Thx 4 your support!
Fw 190 D-9 (USSR, Rank IV) for 7420 Golden Eagles… SO dumb… damn near 50 usd for a prop. Well never mind dont want it that bad.
D-13 was removed from the shop long time ago.
I was waiting for this thing to come around for sale. But this isnt a sale this an absolute F off for that amount of GE. NO MONIES FOR YOU this time snail.
The news literally says its going back for GE
Please read the topic before you post
The plane comeback for buy with GE not for the shop again.