Did it not have some kind of spall liner too?
Generally in game it’s just a sad vehicle
Im not sure if it had a spall liner but from every video i seen about the badger it had the composite screen’s even in the last dev server before the update. But i cant find anything about them removing it
It had a spall liner and the 40mm composite is correct but even in the Dev server, it wasn’t modelled and provided as much protection as it does now. I also has the same gun stabiliser and sights as all the Rooikats which don’t even have their correct sights
So it should have more protection than it does now?
Yes. It should have more that is capable of almost all-round protection from 23mm at 100m and 30 degree front protection from 30mm APFSDS from the BMP 2M at 100m. It also has a stabiliser that fails at the same speed as all the Rooikats, same sights with different thermal gen and has the wrong ammo. It should be using ammo with similar stats to the Puma’s 30mm APFSDS but just got the Bushmaster 2’s ammo, should also mention that the fire rate is a bit too slow
5 Likes
Also looks like despite it operating in it’s lowest fire rate for “accurate fire” it has the same level as dispersion as the rapid fire versions.
Surely thats incorrect
3 Likes
so the badger is pretty good as this kind of vehicle is my exact playstyle.
Its still objectively worse than the XM800T even tho its significantly higher
Badger needs more fire power, If you face China and Russia you can’t pen T-55AM and Type 59s even from the side.
It’s another case of a real world vehicle in game being worse than a mickey mouse paper vehicles.
yes you can. with the APDS its doable and the FS is going through easy
Yes if you are perfectly parallel with them any kind of slight angle and the dart wont pen.
Gets worse when you increase the distance. Combined with the slow rate of fire makes you very vulnerable.
It’s just not the IFV light vehicle Britain wanted or needed.
1 Like
Ajax
1 Like
Indian BMP 3 would have been better than the Badger
idk maybe its because my bread and butter has been fox and scimitar for a while now but I do just fine with the badger
1 Like
should have been CV90 that we used
Is there any bug reports made about it yet?
1 Like
Not that I can find any since the nerf but there were also reports it should be 110, maybe 115 but Gaijin just kept it 100rpm. The turret traverse is also like half the speed it should be and for some reason all of it’s stat card composite armour was also removed. The Badger is a piece of shit. It also doesn’t even have the right name…
5 Likes
What’s the point of an Infantry fighting vehicle if there’s no infantry? I understand that in-game they are more mobile than MBTs, but they’re missing their most important asset. IFVs are meant to transport infantry and support them in combat after dismount, not to combat a bunch of vehicles that can pen them from every angle. We need to push for more mechanics and game modes before we keep letting the devs saturate the game with useless vehicles.
3 Likes
I have some bad news for you, we have had bombers and attackers for more than a decade now and air rb is still just a fighter death match game mode. This game feels like some amateur devs picked up an old dead game and are just making mods for it rather than actually expanding on the game
5 Likes
From their POV everything is going smoothly if sales and player count isn’t taking a hit. I’ll blame this more on the average WT player having a severe case of consoomer brain.
Pls Gaijin when 4th gen aircraft ?
Pls Gaijin when 800th gen aircraft ?
Pls Gaijin when this missile that will utterly break the game if introduced as is, but who cares ?
…
People are literally obsessed and demand more and more stuff without even realizing modes are in shambles. Consoomer brains simply have been fried from dopamine rush from each and every update. I highly doubt core modes will change anytime soon, as there’s literally no incentive for them to do so.
7 Likes
I agree 100%. Don’t get me wrong, new vehicles are cool to look at and all, but players are going to get this vehicle thinking it’ll make a difference in ground just to get obliterated in spawn like any other vehicle. It’s absolutely insane. Especially when players argue against any suggestion that would improve the gameplay. There are way too many vehicles in war thunder that can’t really perform the roles that they were designed to do but the average player just ignores that and slurps up whatever slop the snail poops out before waiting in line for the next pooping. IFVs have WAY more potential but no one really argues or talks about it. It’s just “when new thing?” We’ve gotten more body pillows and random niche vehicles than gameplay overhauls at this point.
3 Likes