I see the higher usecase and the lineup thing
i would say final agreement, it would have a reason to exist and from there we are at gaijins mercy,
also i want to mention that gaijin has no problem putting 30 mm and 25 mm autocanons at 10.0+ br(freccia, namer, puma, cv90 mk4) and i know some of those are heavily armored
More IFV added.
Nation’s WR will decrease
And so it begins…
Has FnF ATGMs
Has FnF ATGMs
Fair, thought it was 40mm
Has FnF ATGM
The Badger IFV will be 9.7 on par with the ICV (P) or RCV (P) in Japan
So its just a wierd decision to add it to the game, at 9.7 with our only other 9.7 TT vehicle being the Tracked Raiper. When the Ajax would have been a 10.3 equivalent to things like the 9040C, 2S38, Puma, etc and then a second with Javelin could have been added for 10.7/11.0 and would have actually been a top tier IFV.
Becuase its not even going to be our higher BR IFV, even though the Desert Warrior is over BRed like hell.
South Africa Re-Visited Update
Olifant (Mk.1, Mk.1A TWMP, Mk.1B and Mk.1B Optimum)
Badger IFV (Fire Support variant and Missile variant)
Baterleur MRL
Valkiri MRL
T5-52 Condor
Class 1 (RSA)
Class 2 (Mk.2, B and C)
Class 3 with Olifant Mk.1B turret
Concept 1 NGAC
Concept 2 NGAC
Umkhonto
ZA-HVM
Cactus SAM (+SAHV)
G6 (52ER, HVM and Marksman)
iKlwa (20, TRT-30 and ZT3/30)
Rooikat (35/ZT-3 and/or LCT-30/ZT-3)
Buffel M40
Centurion (Semel and Skokian)
Mamba Sabre (M40, RO-107 and IPLS)
Mbombe-8 (30 and 57)
Mbombe-6 (ZT3)
Marauder (LMM/ZT3)
MC-90
NGICV (OMC)
RG31 LHM
RG32M
RG34
RG41
T-72M1 (ZA-35 and T6)
and the remaining SARCs for good measure
Atlas Cheetah (C, D and E)
Atlas Super Cheetah D2
Atlas Impala Mk.2
Mirage IIIR2Z
Mirage F1 (AZ and NZ)
Super Mirage F1
Buccaneer S.50
Mwari
Atlas XTP-1
Atlas XH-1
Atlas Rooivalk ADM
AS550 FLASH
SA.341 FLASH
Pretty much all I want from SA. And only because RATO on a Buc S2 sounds like fun and a tad useful for maps like Afghanistan where getting airbourne is a chore
but this only have 30mm cannon, can it be higher tBR than desert warrior?
Amazing addition for the UK.
Yes. It uses an actual autocannon. Not that that 25mm. I also has much, much better mobility
What i dont understand is why its such a high br, the guns ROF is 60 or so rounds a min in 3 second bursts, from a 40 round linkless magazine. The brochure people are passing around is the proof of concept brochure, and doesn’t reflect the vehicle as built, hence why everything is 3d images, it even says the design can change at any time at the bottom of said brochure, which others here have already pointed out is referring to the bushmaster not the gun as fitted.
Brochure people are quoting:
said disclaimer
here is the current sales pitch for the turret:
a fellow member on the british suggestion forum just posted this gun test of it firing, yeah its 60 rounds a min give or take directly from denell. My guesss is that someone at gaijin has confused the intended initial armament which was the Denel 30 mm linkless Cam Gun (EMAK 30) with the actually implemented CamGun GI 30
Because while the hull is finnish, the modification and user is South Africa which is already a sub-tree for Britain, doesn’t make much sense for Sweden to get it
There are plenty of Patria options that Sweden can get that would function the same as this Badger
Afaik in a different fire mode it is 100rpm
you can watch the video, in full auto its still 3 round bursts
I like the turret but it is too big and bulky, it might struggle cause of it.
I would still rather have the missile variant…
… or just the Rooikat 35/ZT3 (or LCT-30/ZT3)
Is this the FSV with more ammo or the standard SV?
They have same turret
Reutech “Missile Rogue”
can fire Starstreak, LMM Martlet and Ingwe
The FSV just carries an anti tank crew in the back instead of infantry
I mean yeah but I will still take it any day in week over pathetic excuse of gun that is 25 mm M242 pissmaster, this should have better mobility and ability to actually pen sides of tanks while being lower br then D. Warrior due to lack of ATGMs so it should be meeting more light vehicles, all in all for me Badger is big W and finally decent looking high tier IFV for Britain.