[Development] Badger IFV: A Beast Yet To Come

I am actually trying to think of a weaker ifv, liteterally all the 25 and 30mm wheelie boys have like 200 rpm, this thing is worse by a big metric. I will hazard a guess its gonna be 9.7 at a minimum.

Yeah, at least it will make the Desert Warrior look good now :D

9.7 was my guess initially based upon ICV in Japan, but now, I think 9.3 would be pushing it, though we do have 9.3s, so would be usable. But definetly not “top tier” or “end of line” worthy

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and we both know that thing is pretty mid and about 4 years late

Britain? IFV? On-time?

Never gunna happen

Wait a minute, this dev blog says its end of the line at rank VI for the light tank line, how is that gonna work is the desert warrior is rank VII

Yeah, no idea. and I think its going in line 5 as well.

So its wierd the wording they’ve used, it makes no sense how it will be top tier and end of line when it will be neither of those things

Aye, now i am more confused, as it literally cant be rank VI and end of the line, all the brit lines terminate at the lowest at rank VII

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Yep, and even if it were rank VII not VI, it would have to be 10.3 or higher for what is going to be a below average 9.7 or 9.3.

This entire dev thread needs a reword I think

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@Smin1080p_WT Could we please get some clarification? The Badger can’t be both rank VI and end of the line for a British tree, as all of them terminate at rank VII at a minimum.

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What even is the british light tank line btw, literally there are light tanks in every line XD.

I presume its the SA line due to the weight of them there, but i can be sure.

Yeah, Id assume so too, though gaijin really made a right old mess of our tree and underestimated how many native options they could have added

I know that too well, there is a reason i am like 1/3 of the ground suggestions XD

Yep, you need to make a ground version of this

Maybe one day, i currently have 21 aircraft suggestions for the brits pending, so i am never at rest it seems

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haha, awesome

It sure is a high tier IFV, but I don’t think it is really needed and I wouldn’t call it decent either.

If it gets IRST (which doesn’t seem to be the case), it would have some neat utility, but otherwise the ATGM carrier variant or either one of the autocannon + ATGM Rooikats would be much better additions.

Even though the 25mm on the Warrior is pretty bad, I’d still take it over a truck with just a 30mm, because the Warrior gets TOW-2As and Bs.

Similarly, when it comes to IFVs, I’d rather have the ZT3A2 and/or Vickers Mk 11 in my lineup than a autocannon IFV. And for just light tanks the Rooikats 105 and VFM5 are infinity more useful in general.

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I guess what who likes is up to each person, I would honestly trade cca 20 mm more pen on autocannon and slightly larger caliber for tiny bit more damage on 30 over 25 and better mobility of Badger for ATGMs, though that is more up to the fact that I prefer more of a flanking more autocannon focused gameplay while playing Fox, Warrior (though ATGMs are usefull) and even Ratel 20 which has even less powerfull gun but at least has rate of fire giving it ability to destroy tracks and gun, I just dont like playing IFVs as camping ATGM carriers, if I want to play ATGM carrier then ZT3A2 is arguably better then Desert Warrior even when used at 10.0 due to its launcher placement and better missiles
I agree that Vickers Mk.11, Rooikats and VFM5 are more usefull, I just find autocannon IFVs more fun to play personally, thats really main reason for me to be happy about Badger coming to game

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No, I’ve been doing loads of research on it to make sure it isn’t the same or worse in terms of pen than the Bushmaster

Fair point.
I feel like the Rooikat 30 or 35 with the ATGM launcher would have been the ideal choice for a new South African light vehicle, even though it’s not an IFV

You mean this?
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BMP-1 (ZT3/30) would be cool too


As for it being IFV, Begleitpanzer 57 and 2S38 are not IFV either, its more about playstyle then it necesarry being designated as IFV, Falcon and Crusader AA Mk.1 are SPAA but they also fit more into (somewhat) mobile autocannon vehicle

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