My bad dude just checked it and can u explain it little more how are they tested?
It will probably be different parametres for different nations and maybe even different missiles. Which doesnt help when comparing missile performance (Different test alts could result in radically different max ranges even for the same missile)
But max range is typically the maximum range the target can be for the missile to actually hit the target. So for the 80km shot, both the launch aircraft and target aircraft were most likely up high and closing head-on with each other. So the missile will travel 50km and the target will travel the other 30km.
For example. ASRAAM has a reported max effective range of 50+km but this is only really against targets up high and closing with the launch aircraft. Under most other conditions, its more like 25+ km.
Now this doesnt mean the missile has the energy to actually still hit the target if it did anything other than fly in a perfectly straight line and is where the LSZ comes in (this is modeled as the box on the right hand side of the radar screen in game) A missile fired within that zone will have the necessary energy to hit the target most of the time except with the most extreme defensive manuevers, and far enough into the LSZ, maybe even no maneuver would be suffecient.
Which is why max range is rarely a good metric for actually judging a missile’s actual performance
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Thankyou very much
Adorable. Idk screems R2D2 to my broken brain.
Wonder one could reskin the sensor in game as a lil R2 head?
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Well the overall point is that some form of testing was done in order to advance the source stating 30G at 13km away. I guess a form of testing that would have sufficed would be to fire a MICA and having another player maneuver before impact once a certain launch condition have been found where the missile is around Mach 0.84 right before impact.
Not a lot of reports get shut down for faulty testing mind you, so long as there are relevant sources.
Should be kept in mind that there are primary sources stating greater than 80km for the MICA, interestingly another primary source found by Mulatu states the MICA has a greater than 50G maneuverability.
MICA with more than 50G and the 80km range and the Rafale can go piss off to 16.0 and fight itself.
Even with Typhoons Radar fixes and they are great nothing touches a MICA, nothing.
it is only able to pull 50Gs while the engine is burning so at most for ~5 seconds
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It would make the best jet and best (Meta) missile even better and increasing the range while retaining that lethal medium to short range would be very broken
it is already able to pull 50Gs
there is a point at which more G pull will not significantly improve performance anymore because at close range / slower speeds the missile will not be able to pull 50Gs anyways
atleast imo it is very much a theoretical value which you will not realistically see ingame
or atleast i never had the issue of me not hitting a target because the Mica/ R-77/ r-73 didnt hit because they were lacking pull it was rather me launching them badly
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it burns for almost 8 seconds
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dosent really change my point tho
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yup, but soon, that won’t matter, because future missiles missiles can come back around after a miss to hit. not sure if mica can do this, but other missiles can.
Almost all missiles with enough manueverability and IOG should be able to do this but IOG in-game is bugged that prevents maneuverable missiles from performing this behavior on a consistent basis. If the target leaves the seeker’s gimbal for more than 3-5 seconds or so, it stops maneuvering.
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That sounds less like a bug to me and more like a deliberate thing the devs have done for gameplay reasons.
think about the teamkills
What about a bit realism
6.75 in game to be exact
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no once again this is just an assumption.
AMRAAM is stated to have a 70km and can indeed achieve 70km of travelling distance in game
MICA is stated to have 80, but can only travel 50.
If we follow your definition and go by the “firing range on cooperative target” instead of the “travelled distance”, that means AMRAAM version A would be advertised with a 100-110km range, which is not the case
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Well I think they’re not wrong actually, the missile couldn’t have reached the plane if it was stationary and only reached it because said plane was closing in. The missile did not travel 80 km here, much less and likely under 50. Saying this is correct would be assuming the 80 value represents the ability to hit a moving object with a specific speed and direction. This makes the value far less representative than if the “travel distance” is an actual absolute travel distance
Unless you can prove that the “travel distance” mentioned in documents isn’t actually what “travel distance” literally means, then he’s correct
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