And it is also about the m88-1, which is also the m88 étape 1, not the m88-2 or étape 2 which got the thrust increased to 75kN with an increase in the turbine temperature
Fig.4 is a comparison to the M88-1
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Okay ?
M88-1 and m88-2 are mostly identical, the changes are mostly to allow for the higher turbine temperature, thus better cooling being required. And I believe one of the sources you gave did talk about the excellent cooling system of the turbine blades. The thrust generating components are visibly identical
Is that so? Then how come MICA cannot reach 80km despite it was stated by manufacturer?
This is hilarious.
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The visual comparison is with the M88-1. The stat comparison is with the M88-2.
To be frank, the hate on Jane’s is very much bloated.
I personally have not see anything that Janes was incorrect with, that would not fall under “data released at that time”.
Well, a few typos but they are typos, so whatever.
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Fair enough I misread
However, as you point out, this document misrepresent the weight of the m88 compared to the atar 9k50 (putting it at 712kg instead of 897kg) is it because they are disregarding external systems (such as cooling, structural components… ?). Starting from this, it’s quite clear that the percentage calculations are incorrect.
And in anyway, that’s far from the only source stating this. We could disregard it and still have more primary sources than necessary giving the 75kN error
A 45% lighter engine from 1590kg would be 874.5kg. A 55% lighter engine would be 715.5kg. It would appear as though you are putting in your percentages wrong.
But no, the comparison would be made engine-to-engine, its not as though components would be missing from one and not the other. The document is simply internally inconsistent.
Over the course of relatively 6 months I’ve found multiple data in it that were disputed by primary sources. I’ve only ever had obtained some usefulness from it when finding out about weapons I never knew existed previously.
I’ve found also that it seems as if Jane’s had been referencing secondary sources rather than referencing primary sources which would put it below other secondary sources which do reference primary sources.
Disputed by primary sources. Yea, that’s the thing.
I have not seen the second part.
https://www.safran-group.com/products-services/m88-proven-performance-and-reliability
likewise though
and of course you can always point to 75kN being part of the test program, and not on the production variants
sorry to bring up old stuff but i figured out the problem for who ever has the same problem, but simply set a key bind for “switch the hmd indication”
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Didn’t know these options existed. The more you know
The HMD Brightness can also be found in MFM. Under cockpit select “more”
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Yeah let’s give Germany and Britain the brimstone 3 they are using
Sure, don’t forget to add all hammer versions and MICA IR.
You can give IRIS-T and ASRAAM to compensate MICA IR (If they can ofc).
The range “issue” in-game isnt really a question of energy, its that the missile has a hardcoded range limit of 50km atm.
50km of flight range to be specific, it can hit a cooperative target from an 80km launch for example:
Punch into statshark:
Launch range: 80000m
Launch speed: 1618km/h (~M1.5)
Target speed: 2156km/h (~M2.0)
Alt: 10000m
Impact at ~61.5s with ~43km of horizontal flight range covered.
At the end of the day though, that the missile is hardcoded to self destruct at 50km of flight or 80km of flight is pretty irrelevant. Missiles dont reach those kinds of flight ranges without very specific circumstances which almost never occur in-game, particularly with maps being no bigger than 126x126km, with airfields typically being ~100-110km from eachother.
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Doesn’t change the fact that it’s significantly underperforming in terms of range.
So what were you saying again?
Its not though? It can still hit targets off an 80km launch at high alt vs a high speed cooperative target.
You’re nitpicking the absolute stupidest complaint there is, crying about something that “might” be wrong but even if fixed would have no bearing on any regular match.
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