Dassault Rafale - Variants, Characteristics, Armament and Performance

Yes, I am not in charge of the reports for the FM of the plane. You would need to ask @Zayf who is the person mostly responsible for FM reports for the Rafale. I am also not in the devs mind and don’t know how their physics engine work, so I can’t give any conclusions on that. I am just giving (I hope somewhat good) assumptions, but nothing I say should be considered the truth, especially when I am not providing sources.
And to be clear, this applies to anyone in the forums (and I’m definitely not targeting anyone wink wink). Everyone has their favorites, and often time will (even unknowingly) misrepresent sources and use opinion as facts to defend their toy or go against stuff they don’t like (this issue is more prevalent as we see more "top of the line"vehicles in the game).
If you ask about me, I’m French and a French vehicles enjoyer so I’ll definitely have my own bias.

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Depends on what exactly the Algorithm it’s using needs, Correlation for example is a fairly standard, and generally low cost or at least can be sped up significantly by appropriate ASIC chips.

The advantage of Correlation, over Contrast seekers is that they could attack a zero-contrast target. by utilizing the rest of the scene to derive targeting information. and so is sufficient to provide guidance for attacking static targets. The issue is that if the scene changes or the target moves sufficiently relative to the scene, guidance fails or least ceases to provide useful information.

Contrast on the other hand is much more general and able to deal with moving targets as it segments them out of the scene and then performs basic proportional navigation tasks to attack them. The issue with Contrast seekers is conversely that the target needs to have enough contrast with the scene to be targeted.

So the use case varies depending on the target set. Many more modern stores (e.g. AGM-65F/-65G) will have some way to swap between either to allow for general use against an expanded target set, or otherwise Targets Of Opportunity.

I don’t think computing power or battery life is a factor with modern electronics, especially for a passive seeker.

If H… can implement digital image correlation for their drones then you do the math …

(That conflict is over and several years has passed so I assume the picture should be fine)

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I think if those limitations for AASM are real, they are probably due to the optical system (sensor, lenses, cooling etc) rather than battery life or computing power …
I.e. the sensor probably just can’t see very far or the image quality is not that great …

It’s probably more so to provide terminal homing corrections to account for drift in the GPS / INS & shaped trajectory and do it’s best to align the intended / predicted (synthetic) point of aim with the point of impact.

Mavericks for example do a similar thing once the target takes up more than ~70% of the FoV, and hold the current control surface defection until impact since otherwise spurious guidance commands would be injected into the autopilot potentially trashing a shot with some geometries / targets.

The AASM IR paper is from 2008, and the AASM guidance systems uses relatively complex target recognition algorithms (since it’s the same as the SCALP). That’s my main guess for why it only does 2 corrections.
As for why it in’y turns on 2 seconds before, you are indeed probably right. The FOV of the seekers is still pretty wide for so recognizing specific type of vehicles/precise target features at range might be unpractical beyond 2km

theres a difference between something being good and unrealistic

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And i would argue that the Mirage 2000 was already a good jet and the rafale is just better than it in every regard

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Give it « realistic » thrust curves and it will underperform in many other metrics. You guys need to realize that this is a game, with very simplified (supersonic) physics, and you won’t get things « realistic » with only « realistic » values.
We already gave the devs the data sheet of the M88 during the dev server introducing the rafale. And yet they deliberately made tweaked the curves as reports were actionned in order to comply with actual IRL datapoints.
Also, the curves of the m88 mostly become highly unrealistic above the structural limit of the rafale.
While the engine does overperform above Mach 1, it’s not nearly as much as one would believe, since statshark gives values well beyond the structural limit of planes

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just to inform you all, i still like the Rafale

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And yet, for other aircraft, such as the tornado, where game limitations prevent it from having a realistic flight model, the Devs chose to intentionally leave the aircraft in a underperforming state including it having a rather significant nerf to its max speed.

It is strange that the Rafale is allowed to over perform so significantly for the sake of some things being accurate but others like the tornado, harrier and Typhoon are left underperforming dramatically as to avoid them over performing

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NEURON my beloved.
Surely they’ll do something with it, surely.

There was talk of merging the dassault nEURON and BAE Taranis (as well as the other like 4 BAE stealth UCAV’s) to create an L/O stealth wingman system but seems to have gone nowhere.

France is still planning to roll out a L/O drone along side the Rafale circa 2030 with its F5 standard. It is planned to be about twice as big as Neuron and a fully French program as of now

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Seems to have fallen through then as the UK has introduced a similar programme with Japan and Italy building on existing UK development for the Tempest programme which should have IOC alongside Tempest (so test flight’s by 2030 and IOC by 2035 aiming for 2032)

I just wasn’t sure if it was being continued on the UK-French side also. But then again pre-2017 we weren’t sure if FCAS would be EFA 2 electric-boogaloo with half of Europe participating, and the announcement of the nEURON-Taranis partnership was made in 2014-2016

My honest opinion concern the rafale buffs and the eft nerf
The rafale needed those buffs in order to compete against the eft but the issues is that gaijin decided to nerf the eft engine power and maneuverability which created an unbala
Now the rafale doesn’t have an equal and is now the best jet in game when it comes to arb in terms of overall flight performance
Tbf i wish they revert the nerf on the eft even though i understand why they did it in the first place since ive played the eft

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Simply they needed to nerf both.

Running into an odd issue with the Rafale’s MAWS slaving, doesn’t seem to deploy chaff ever.

Anyone else running into this? Unsure if I should bug report it or if it’s an isolated issue.

I experienced similar symptoms.

It was definitely ARH, but MAWS was launched flare and chaff