Dassault Rafale - Variants, Characteristics, Armament and Performance

7km =/= 18km

@ron_23 :
About the MICA-EM exploding at 50.6km :

(ty @DirectSupport for the vids)

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Just to make it clear, they both go hand in hand. A missile requires some airspeed in order to maneuver.

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@kizvy
7km is for VL, with PEAK speed of Mach 3
18km is for HL, with PEAK speed of Mach 4

EDit: to repharse,… since i wasn’t understood 1st time
“PEAK” replaces “starting”

Starting speed of Mach 4??? What aircraft will have a starting speed of Mach 4

Custom mission was used where the Rafale was suspended in mid-air.

come - on ,… you understand what i mean

please show me a fighter jet that travels at mach 4

and please show me a vertical launched missiles that has a starting speed of mach 3

You have to say that the 18 km is relative to another fighter going at Mach 2 towards you. You’re not measuring ground distance in that case

wouldnt it need to be angeled at 90°?

becasue the images of the Mica VL i could find all seem to be launched at 90° (or close to 90°)

Ideally yes, now that the MICA can be fired outside of its gimbal limits then the radar’s 70 degrees would be as close as it gets until MICA VL gets added. The point of the testing was that some testing was done even if it’s not perfect with the tools we have. The developers have the tools to properly launch the missile and conduct the testing at 90 degrees and can reference sources to better tune the missiles.

couldn’t we set MICA-EM Missile into a Tor-M1 within Custom?
as i understand you lack radar going 90° off the missile sight.
but Tor-M1 would be able to give us that.

we would have to make Tor-M1 (F Band) to match radar band of MICA-EM (I band)

Well, I haven’t done that and not aware of any freely available Tor-M1 custom out there. What we know though is that even with the rudimentary testing, the MICA EM is underperforming in kinematics.

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on that i agree, but we don’t get any comparative charts for 70° launch.

and are we sure gaijin didn’t made any mistakes (miles as km)? mean even NASA made such mistake in the past,… so Gaijin.

Quite sure TOR forces the missile into horizontal. Not like you have a very simmilar system just added to the game, cough SLM, that would allow for such test if it can be modified.

still no,… VL makes 50G at 7km,… but already lost a 90° turn.

so it makes sense to times it by 2 because of the 90° angle, then +2km for the speed difference between VL and HL

i don’t have seen any charts (yet), but it makes senses to me (an engineer)

is it? i don’t have any chinese forces, but it that 90° launch made me check on the SPAAM

It also would require a custom where you can have another player with you that can maneuver at the right moment in time.

can’t it be coded into the AI flight path? (maybe only Devs,…)

You can, however the AI can be, tricky.