Dassault Rafale - Variants, Characteristics, Armament and Performance

This is a video talking specifically about SIM which is niche. I agree Rafale is busted in SIM but this is not really the mode the devs are putting the effort about balance. In ARB the rafale is probably one of / the best jet but not by such a huge margin that it defines the meta.

It’s busted in all modes.

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As Mikey said, its busted in all modes, its just most busted in sim. As the CC mentionned, it was already busted in sim before Hornets Sting, to the point where it was generally considered that whoever had Rafales was going to win the match, and yet it was still buffed a ton during Hornets Sting while its competition was nerfed.

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@k_stepanovich

Is scan loss modelled for ESA radars in the game?

https://www.matec-conferences.org/articles/matecconf/pdf/2019/53/matecconf_easn2019_04001.pdf

https://warhistory.org/media/2024/01/AESA-A-Game-Changer-in-RADAR-Technology.jpg

https://www.rellpower.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Anokiwave_AESA_Revolution_White_Paper.pdf

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not as far as i know

you dont have any issues locking onto someone that is at the max radar range, while also being close to the max gimbal limit

I can’t see what this message was.

It was this video:

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This post was flagged by the community and is temporarily hidden.

This post was flagged by the community and is temporarily hidden.

He brought up the problem the Rafale is causing and this thread silenced him as usual…

Now this will be deleted because speaking against the Rafale gets you auto flagged here. Great environment you got here.

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Ahh okay, I don’t think there’s a solution to fixing the “dominance” of the Rafale in air rb/sim besides adding more advanced counterparts even though the YouTuber is against it. And the youtuber’s suggestion of “tuning down” the Rafale won’t work as Gaijin simply withhold reports for balance, instead of actually balancing aircrafts. In fact, it is likely the Rafale will get more buffs next patch. I still maintain Rafale was added too soon and M2K still could have gotten more buffs.

There’s a report to somewhat reduce its G overload but that can be mitigated somewhat in air/ground RB with an instructor report if needed.

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I don’t have sources to claim that the Rafale needs to be tuned down, so I won’t be here asking for that.
I was simply reporting the video that was flagged, even though I think the original post was flagged for the 2nd part of the message.

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Oh I was just commenting what the YouTuber was talking about, giving my thoughts on the video.

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Ah fair enough, I misunderstood your post -_-

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Starting by having it not overperform in the same area’s the EFT was overperforming would be nice. But yeah, I agree it shouldn’t have been added so early.

You cant see it cuz the ppl in this thread mass flagged it as off-topic despite it being a video discussing the Rafale in WT

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There is a pretty easy way. Removing the HMD or the 2 extra MICA the jet was erroneously given would be the best way to start.

Removing the 2 extra missiles would drop its combat endurance/impact to that of a light fighter (down to F-16/Gripen level)

Removing the HMD would reduce its ability to just sit near the notch while baiting ppl in and fire HOBS MICAs with literally no counterplay available from other players. Would also reduce its situational awareness in air SB.

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While I agree, don’t give them reasons to add an even more advanced Rafale variant XD

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At this point, adding an F4.1 wouldnt make much of a difference anyways unless they also gave it new missiles.

Realistically, most nations ingame are now pretty well balanced at this point, with France being a massive problem and outlier in air to air combat.

The clear fix to this is to remove the stuff it was given that it should not have. Either one or both (its way more reasonable to remove one of the 2 and re-assess).

Btw, the jet is so problematic, one of the players from BIH mentionned that in test formats for a tournement where Rafale is legal ends up with the meta just being everyone plays Rafale because nothing else comes close, and he hopes its completely banned from the tournement scene until something is done.

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Whether I agree or not, it would be an unfruitful endeavor, we would be wasting time on this. The HMD had been tested, you’d have to be consistent and ask for it to be removed on the Gripen A, Yak-141, and Mirage 2000-5F as well. There’s no point in harping on things that the French community by and large does not wish to see and also that fulfilled Gaijin’s requirements. Something that I think should be “nerfed” and largely has the French community’s agreement is removing the Mirage F1’s Magic 2s.

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