Dassault Rafale - Variants, Characteristics, Armament and Performance

can someone give me tips for using MICAs…?

I swear my hit rate with them is probably below 50%, they track perfectly, someone turns slightly and they do a sharp turn and go bananas.

Ive even had one MISS a guy who was literally flat spinning and on fire…

i usually launch at about 18-17km fyi

I dont understand these missiles at all.

Launch them at like, 15 km max if you are close to the ground

i dont fly close to the ground, and still doesnt adress my question about the MICA’s getting easily notched?

i swear every time i launch at someone they slightly turn and the missile just fuck off randomly.

Micas are slightly harder to notch than other fox-3 missiles

This is because the speed gate got reduced, which means that when nothing micas you need to be closer to flying perfectly 90° to notch the missile than with the Amraam or r77 for example

Well, micas are actually the hardest fox 3s to notch

Keep your altitude and get a position above the furball that forms during the match, radar will be good to have the enemies displayed and make the 8 mica’s rain from above. I use this strat with the su30 already and it works really well, in that 15/18km range the missiles will have a higher chance of getting to their targets, especially when your micas come from almost a perpendicular angle.

If this strat works well in the Su-30 I can imagine it would also work really well in the Rafale, considering the better kinematic capabilities and defensive abilities of the jet.

Thats pretty much what i do yeah, i rarely get below 2k because the rafale turns into a spaceship at altitude and you literally outrun anything shot at you, its nuts.

also i forgot to add that the at range its easy to notch MICA’s, but close range? yeah forget it theyre impossible to dodge.

I think my initial post was clumsy, i shouldve edited to say that the MICA’s feel inconsistent at times, theyre not bad, just a bit… disappointing sometimes?

Nah it still is cuz the Rafale is one of, if not the only jets with so much acceleration ingame that it rips in level flight at 10000m alt, easily.

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All 12 Crotia Rafale were parked

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new to the rafale forum, is anyone trying to do anything about the unrealistically high thrust the rafale has been given after the release of the hornets sting update?

or is it realistic and ive been lied to?

The rafale has been tuned by the devs according to specific data charts and is mostly respecting them. However, because supersonic drag and delta wings aren’t modeled all that well in game, the devs probably had to increase the thrust at above Mach 1.2-1.4, which might be somewhat unrealistic, but that’s simply a trade off to make it as accurate as possible according to the datapoints given

ok, it just sounds wrong to say that the Typhoon accelerates slower at high speed than the Rafale, or at least it says that on statshark

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We have tried, no change so far, its thrust ramp up is just too much above 600IAS.

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god forbid france gets something good.

if its unrealistic yeah. the french stuff being artificialy buffed to unreasonable performance is wrong
besides the FM and thrust add the IR Hammer overperforming to it

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i legit have no idea what this means, rephrase please.

like they already said the thrust of the Rafale is to high at certain points.

Besides the A2G armament of the Rafale the AASM Hammer IR is overperforming, it is not meaned for moving targets. What we found out is that the IR seeker only activates 2km before impact and seems to only take 2 picture shoots to correct flight paths.
Its mostly meaned for slow moving targets and correction of stationary targets where gps jamming might be used.

It should work like a worse Penguin missle if i remember right, and The laser variant was used to only hit target that drive slower then 50km/h i think it was as well. Which would be more precise then the IR variant

I understand your point but you have to remember that if we ever decide to make ir seeker more realistic, it would also affect tv seekers like the walleyes or the kh 29 family or fnf gbu and early maverick version since they aren’t able to track moving targets either

I dont necessarily see any issues with that.

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i wouldnt realy care and i dont know enough about those missles either.
I can only tell you the situatiom about the AASM Hammer and how some french members were very dishonest about its capabilities, taking sources out of context, releasing sources only partialy and hiding important information.
With all that stuff they even wanted to try argue that their IR seeker is better then MMW ones.

How all that relates to other fnf armament i dont know, i am only aware about the circumstances of this specific one

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