that is not possible because they have completly different weapons with different drag and different mass
Same weight and same parasite drag will favour the Su-30SM due to its higher thrust, making an increase in weight and drag less significant.
Thats why thr Su-30SM is less affected by its suspended ordinance than the Rafale with its relatively weak engines.
The thing is that lighter and less drag missiles have a greater impact on the aircraft. I guess I just don’t understand something
AIM-120 -4.1 climb rate
(147kg)
Mica-EM -8.6 climb rate
(112kg)
That’s probably because the aircraft you check the aim120 on is an f15 (I guess?), which is far heavier than the Rafale.
With a bigger plane (and thus more powerful engines for a similar TWR), a hard point of the same weight will have more impact on the lighter aircraft, meaning the jet performances will degrade faster. The Rafale is a light airframe, and thus the MICA have a bigger impact than the AIM 120, that while bigger, are still « smaller » in ratio when installed on the f15
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This explains a lot. Thank you very much.
Дякую.
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R-74,R-74M is a factory, of course, the missiles may not look finished.
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@Gunjob @WaretaGarasu Kinda game breaking (for SB players)
Scorpion HMD (Rafale C F3) SPI bugged/not working properly:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/vsitVgSolmBU
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French bias!!
France just thought having it retractable was unnecessary and expensive to maintain. And that logic is great since the Rafale ended up having a third of the Typhoon’s operational cost and 4/5 of its unit cost
Indian are paying $110 million per Rafale (in fact the Indian deal of 7.87 billion Euros put Rafale per unit cost at 242 million Euros (including training, equipment and spares)
Typhoon was offered to for $95 - $115 million per Typhoon.
The cost difference is pretty minimal
was talking unit cost for the country of origin tho
The Rafale costs 70-80M€ per unit to the French forces
Oh but the Typhoon is cheaper per nation because it’s a collab… alr then. Tho the operating cost is still lower for the Rafale
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France also ordered more Rafales, the whole Navy air wing, Airforce/Spaceforce operate the Rafale in the region of 230+ airframes
Typhoon the RAF has 120Ish, I do wish the RN had at least considered the Navalised Typhoon, Instead of F-35!
Both are premium aircraft and you will pasy a premium to have them in your Airforce/Navy :)
Yeah Imo Britain made a huge mistake by buying the F-35B, buying foreign aircrafts instead of domestic designs really harms the national aircraft industry… Should’ve done like France and made everything domestically. Btw did you know the French navy really wanted to buy hornets at first before they received the Rafales, because they trusted the hornet more? The Rafale was forced onto them but then they realized it was great…
I did the French Navy wanted those Hornets badly.
I believe the Rafale was rushed into service missing A2G modes to stop the Navy from pursuing it further.
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We were this close > < from having the hornet in the French tree in 2nd line
Makes me think, we really should get Rafale M F.1 in second line
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Having the hornet in your tech tree isn’t a good thing
The hornet is a pretty limited airframe with alot of issues
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Thankfully we didn’t get the F18, the Rafale just make more sense overall. But those poor marine guys had to endure the prehistorical Crusader way too long.
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I fully agree, tho the Rafale M is much needed and I doubt it’s coming anytime soon
Yeah lol