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Are these r-74s?
yep
Guys, please explain what formula is used to calculate weapon debuffs. Because the Su-30 has ~2 times less weapon debuffs than the Rafale.
I hope it’s clear what I mean, because I’m writing through a translator.
You’re comparing a guided bomb to air to air missiles , of course guided bombs will have more of a negative impact than air to air missiles
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no that is clearly russian bias
What kind, and are they unfinished in that picture?
I needed to compare the same weight and resistance. But then how to explain it?
that is not possible because they have completly different weapons with different drag and different mass
Same weight and same parasite drag will favour the Su-30SM due to its higher thrust, making an increase in weight and drag less significant.
Thats why thr Su-30SM is less affected by its suspended ordinance than the Rafale with its relatively weak engines.
The thing is that lighter and less drag missiles have a greater impact on the aircraft. I guess I just don’t understand something
AIM-120 -4.1 climb rate
(147kg)
Mica-EM -8.6 climb rate
(112kg)
That’s probably because the aircraft you check the aim120 on is an f15 (I guess?), which is far heavier than the Rafale.
With a bigger plane (and thus more powerful engines for a similar TWR), a hard point of the same weight will have more impact on the lighter aircraft, meaning the jet performances will degrade faster. The Rafale is a light airframe, and thus the MICA have a bigger impact than the AIM 120, that while bigger, are still « smaller » in ratio when installed on the f15
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This explains a lot. Thank you very much.
Дякую.
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R-74,R-74M is a factory, of course, the missiles may not look finished.
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@Gunjob @WaretaGarasu Kinda game breaking (for SB players)
Scorpion HMD (Rafale C F3) SPI bugged/not working properly:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/vsitVgSolmBU
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French bias!!
France just thought having it retractable was unnecessary and expensive to maintain. And that logic is great since the Rafale ended up having a third of the Typhoon’s operational cost and 4/5 of its unit cost
Indian are paying $110 million per Rafale (in fact the Indian deal of 7.87 billion Euros put Rafale per unit cost at 242 million Euros (including training, equipment and spares)
Typhoon was offered to for $95 - $115 million per Typhoon.
The cost difference is pretty minimal
was talking unit cost for the country of origin tho
The Rafale costs 70-80M€ per unit to the French forces
Oh but the Typhoon is cheaper per nation because it’s a collab… alr then. Tho the operating cost is still lower for the Rafale
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